> > It is a war. > > Indeed. A war for freedom for all software users. A war > that started > back in 1983, and whose proponents have suffered many > threats and > losses, but also several wins. > > One of the greatest threats these days are people who just > don't care > about freedom, who just want to use the software and who > would love to > sacrifice whatever freedom was already achieved for some > temporary > convenience. People who will fight vigorously against any > attempt to > educate others about these issues. I care for freedom. I just don't care for attaching the name GNU to Linux like in GNU/Linux. It does not make sense to me, because of many reasons I have posted before. Other projects will ask that you attach their names as well and this could become a problem in not being able to satisfy all of the peoples' egos. It already is there, users have to type $ uname -o in a command line terminal. If they do this, they get what you want :) > > They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little > temporary > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben > Franklin, freedom > fighter > > > A war between the FSF who want the GNU part attached > to Linux It is a continuation of the disputes but now moved over here http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-August/msg00101.html > > This is just a smaller battle, not the war. Your choice of > words is > quite poor and extremely unfair. The FSF is not the only > one who > makes this request and works for software freedom or on the > GNU > project, and nobody is requesting to have their own names > attached to > Linux. Linux is a kernel. Yes it is, it is also a Distribution composed of GNU parts and non GNU parts. > All we ask for is to have the > name of the > operating system created to give people freedom back where > it should > always have been: on the operating system that people chose > to run on > top of the kernel Linux. Where it should have/could have/would have shouda/woulda/coulda but it isn't. Well it is, just users have to type in a terminal shell $ uname -o and they will get what you want, and RMS wants as well :) > > -- The effort you and others have put up here could be better spent requiring that Linux Distributions mandatorily add the GNU/ tag to Linux. Debian GNU/Linux already does this, ask Slackware, OpenSUSE, Mandriva, PC/GNU/LinuxOS, Gentoo, Sabayon, Sidux, ..., all the Distros at Distrowatch except the *BSDs and OpenSolaris to add the tag. My guess is that they do when one does [olivares@localhost ~]$ uname -o GNU/Linux [olivares@localhost ~]$ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 21 01:09:10 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux They should get what you want. Is that enough? Was that too hard to do? As much as I would like to remove it, I have found a way using sed, and sed is part of GNU [olivares@localhost ~]$ uname -o > uname-o [olivares@localhost ~]$ sed -e 's/GNU\/Linux/Linux/g' uname-o Linux [olivares@localhost ~]$ What good does that do? Nothing GNU/Linux is still there, I just suppressed its output using sed. BTW, other places also argue about GNU/Linux. One is here: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-technology/8721-gnu-linux-vs-linux.html Linux 12 30.00% GNU/Linux 8 20.00% Makes no difference but I prefer Linux 19 47.50% Makes no difference but I prefer GNU/Linux 1 2.50% What do you think of that? Does it make sense? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
