Marko Vojinovic: >> But tell me, what is in principle The Single Most Important element >> of the car? There is only one answer --- the engine. Alexandre Oliva: > So, what remains to be justified is why you decided Linux is the > engine rather than say one of the tires. You can't really expect anyone to give you any credibility if you want to argue that the kernel, the core of the system, is not the engine. The operating system is that which *allows* software to make use of the hardware (that's mostly done by the kernel). Software that makes use of the OS are on top of that, and is not the OS. The user-interface is what allows a user to make use of the hardware (command line or graphical), again the UI is not the OS. Utilities and applications are NOT the operating system. A computer system is a broad term for the entire thing, and is not the OS, but some would like to erroneously believe that. Speaking as someone who studied (at college) computing from the component level, and has built systems from the chip level. I mean breadboarding CPUs, RAM, I/O, etc., not just putting together IBM clones. As well as studying programming at that level (hand compiling the op-codes from mnemonics used to write the program). I'm quite astounded by the number of people who want to redefine what an OS is, to something that it's not, just to suit their egos. The OS simply is that which lets software make use of the hardware, not what makes it convenient for us to make use of it. So answer this: Which bit of the software on this computer system is it that actually does the OS functions, the *real* OS function? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list