Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

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Alexandre Oliva wrote:

If I add some bsd code into a gpl'd work, could I then distribute the
resulting binary and only the previously gpl'd code?

No, you have to provide the whole with the permissions and the
conditions set forth in the GPL, which the modified BSD license
permits you to do.

Instead, I believe it becomes encumbered with the gpl restrictions -
and could not be used otherwise.

When part of the whole, yes.

Which was and is exactly my point. The GPL must cover the work as a whole and thus is only compatible with licenses that permit their own terms to be replaced with those of the GPL.

When took in isolation, it's still under
the modified BSD license,

Nothing can be taken in isolation when it is part of work containing any GPL-covered content because of that work-as-a-whole restriction.

No, I understand that restrictions are not freedom.

So, let's see, just because you're prohibited from using software for
stealing money from others' bank accounts, and you could decide to
change any piece of software to do just that, then no software
whatsoever can be free, because it's under a restriction?

That's not, and shouldn't be, a restriction applied to the software itself.

Just because you're prohibited from removing the copyright notice and
the license from code under one of the various permissive licenses,
it's not free, because it's under a restriction?

If there was some use that this requirement prevented, then I'd say it would make the code not free - but I can't think of any such use and thus consider it free.

You seem to have a very odd understanding of what freedom is about.
You appear to disregard the fact that one's freedom doesn't invade
someone else's freedom.

How so? There are specific regulations for that, none of which involve combining software components that you otherwise have the right to use and redistribute.

If you were the only person in the universe,
and you could change physical laws to suit your wishes, then you might
be able to equate freedom to 'no restrictions'.  Once others enter the
picture, what you claim as freedom, if claimed by the others, would
turn into power usable against you: threats to *your* actual
*freedom*.  I don't think that's an outcome you'd be interested in,
and you wouldn't be so selfish as to wanting that kind of power only
to you, so there's some inconsistency in your stance.

None of which has anything to do with the outcomes that we can observe for less restricted software - the original TCP/IP code being a fine example. I want more of that kind of outcome and I don't understand why anyone would want it to have been prevented.

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