Re: Closed source modules will be banned from kernel?

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Ed Greshko wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 07 July 2008 20:37:33 Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:51:51 +0100

Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Binary modules usually last only a few releases before changes in the
kernel break them by accident anyway so I would assume that if a binary
driver vendor goes under the clock is ticking.
I wouldn't say "by accident" - It has been my experience that
most of the time, the breakage is not only highly deliberate, but
triggered mostly by the high incidence of extreme OCD which kernel
developers seem to suffer from, causing them to make fantastic
wholesale changes to driver interfaces for utterly trivial
cosmetic reasons which add no stability or functionality, but
merely relieve their obsessive need to correct some "flaw" which
no one else can perceive :-).

Why is it considered OK to insult people on a mailing list, when you wouldn't to their face?

I don't feel there is any insult above. An opinion was offered about a class of people. And, frankly, should I were to hold that opinion I would not hesitate to express it in that manner in public to the group's face. In fact, I've done so with a bunch of X.400 developers at a conference in Australia. Can't remember what city...we all got too drunk. :-)

Besides, Alan did append a :-) which automatically absolves the writer of any ill intent or presumed intent.

Sorry, first off, it wasn't Alan who did the insulting or appending (Alan is a kernel driver developer). It was Tom who did the insulting. Second, appending a :-) does not absolve you of the responsibility for what you say, any more than smiling while telling a bald faced lie absolves you of the responsibility for that lie.

As for "an opinion was offered about a class of people..." that is bigoted horse-shit. To sit in judgment of any group of people and insult them like that shows a decided lack of maturity and intelligence. It's the same thing as saying "All Irish are dunken lazy bums", or "All jews will lie, cheat or steal for money" or "All Americans are loud, obnoxious and arrogant" . If you want to judge a person, judge a person, DO NOT generalize to a "class of people"

John

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