Re: Periodic Fedora 9 system hangs with jumpy mouse

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I have this problem too.

Deron Meranda wrote:
Okay, so Xorg ran away last night ... <snip>
it should have been a completely idle unused system.

Anyway, concerning the Xorg driver module, this is a brand new
install of F9 (not an upgrade).  All the software is part of the base F9
repo; nothing 3rd party was added.  Everything was auto-detected.
Ditto. I have the most up to date versions of X, etc at the time or writing. Same kernel too (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.x86_64).
The Xorg driver chosen for this was:
   /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//radeon_drv.so

My screen is 1440 x 900 x 24, monitor is  DELL E198WFP
Mine's 1680x1050. Using an HP Compaq 6715b laptop with ATI Radeon Express X1250,
from level 3 boot, remove driver, then use 'yum install' to bring your
driver back in and reboot to load it. driver may be fried.

The driver is coming from the package xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-14.fc9.i386
I did an rpm verify on it,
   rpm -V -v xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.8.0-14.fc9.i386
and that said all the files were intact and correct.
Again, same.  My drivers seem to be present and correct.
kde, gnome? have you tried any minimal desktops? something may, tho i
would doubt, be different in how you bring up x.

Haven't tried other desktops other than Gnome, but I have disabled
all the fancy effects, etc.

I can confirm this occurs in both KDE and GNOME on my system.
The system runs perfectly fine; until that magic moment when the
Xorg process runs away.  Or is that the kernel that is running away?
I wish I knew how to debug the kernel better; because it just doesn't
appear to be a user-space problem.
The cause of this problem on my system seems to be when dragging (resizing) a window. X then seems to hang, the pointer gets jumpy and the whole desktop is unresponsive. Being SSH'd in from another machine, I could see Xorg at 99-100% CPU. This never seems to happen when dragging a whole window, just when I try to resize one. I haven't noticed this happening at all by using a scroll bar (but I'm not saying this fault hasn't been triggered that way too..). The only way I can recover is a hard reboot - holding down the power button. Issuing "init 6" or "reboot" makes no difference - it just hangs, which makes me think this is kernel- rather than X-related.. :-(

I'm afraid I cannot offer the same diagnostics as Deron without a little instruction, but I'd like to help to resolve this.. ;-)

FWIW, I'm downloading the debug flavour of the current kernel. I'm going to reboot into that and see if I can get more output in the log(s)...

Is it possible that the Radeon driver can be triggering a bug in the kernel (which hangs X)?

All the best,
Steve


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