Craig White wrote:
First of all, Tom didn't qualify his comments on NetworkManager which is
very useful in some instances and apparently is installed as the default
networking daemon if you install from Live CD. His suggestion to turn it
off:
- lacked any suggestion that you need to turn on the regular 'network'
daemon in its place instead
Did you read the post you copied? He suggested that you turn
NetworkMangler off, and the traditional (functional) network daemon in
the very next line! It's the line between the disabling of NM and the
line that says "reboot" if you are having problems finding it.
- lacked any consideration of wireless or dhcpcd client needs
Which work as they did in FC8 (and all the way back to FC4).
With respect your your efforts making Fedora 9 work to your
expectations, you've sort of proven your own problems to yourself but
contributed nothing to fixing any issues that may exist.
He provided a three line fix for the NM problem, while I knew that
already I'm sure some people didn't.
One of the
great things about this list is that if you can figure out how to ask
the questions, you can get your problems solved.
Craig
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 07:02 +0800, Robert M. Bernabe wrote:
newbie here... trying to make linux work as a gui interface with
postgresql... found fc9 unworkable too as compared to fc8....our own opinion
is that fc9 has implemented some features we don't understand. e.eg. off the
bat, after installation...the samba services status appear unknown in the
services window...I think so do other services (somebody posted a reason for
it I think... but it involves several 'classic' prompt windows edits...) so
for now we are sticking to fc8...thankful for all the efforts plugged into
the fedora project in general... but just wishing we understood the thinking
behind the changes in fc9...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Horsley" <tom.horsley@xxxxxxx>
To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: What is the matter with fedora 9?
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:53:37 +0200
fedora <fedora@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
it introduced a NetworkManager which prohibits networking.
Don't know about the other problems, but for me this makes
networking function just like always:
chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager off
chkconfig --level 2345 network on
reboot
That turns off NetworkManager and goes back to the old nasty
stick-in-the-mud networking that actually works :-).
NetworkManager may be good for folks with laptops who flit
about from one hotspot to another, but it is hopeless for
us more ordinary network users who have static IPs or even
DHCP networks initialized at boot time and unchanging after
that. It should never have arbitrarily been made the default.
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