> Actually, I find that greatly ironic, as I switched temporarily to openSUSE > because IMO Fedora isn't moving fast ENOUGH for my taste. I too did this briefly, but they can't even keep their mirrors operational on release day, and the system gets in your way entirely too much, so I'm back... > I really really > want to run KDE 4.1 (which IS most definitely usable as a desktop, and a > rather excellent one I might add) I disagree for many uses of usable. It lacks entirely too much still (4.00.82) for my liking. It's currently worse than Gnome for hiding features and the like... I truly despise what I've seen of their current direction, and there is now truly nothing that seperates KDE from anything else. QGTKStyle ensures the apps will look native in Gnome too, so I think I've lost interest in KDE entirely. > Actually, the whole KDE argument was bound to be brought up. I really don't understand it at all honestly. Fedora is about forward looking software, why would it continue to support software that is no longer maintained? If you really want KDE3, just set up a repo in Koji and be done with it. Supporting KDE3 when there is KDE4 is _exactly_ the sort of thing that is APPEALING about Fedora. KDE3 is getting _very_ little maintenance since KDE4 was released, so it would add even more of a burden on developers. If you disagree with the rationale, go find a distro that still has it! The KDE team will hate me for saying this, but what kind of respectable KDE user uses a non-KDE distro anyways? The man-power behind KDE on Fedora is pathetic - and I honestly hope it doesn't get better. Fedora is a Gnome distro, and new features are considered with Gnome in mind. KDE doesn't even have any type of SELinux support, so the leading reason for using Fedora isn't even applicable for it... this isn't going to change either, the bulk of KDE based distros are using AppArmor. Before you rebuff this with "You're a Gnome zealot blah blah blah", I was a KDE zealot for about 5 years, I just got sick of all the memory leaks (kio_http and kio_file mostly) and the constant breakages. This still hasn't been fixed. After about 10 days of using KDE, _all_ of my RAM is always used (2 gigs), that is unacceptable, especially when 1.2 gigs is resident RAM. Makes it hard to do other useful things like run a web server etc... not to mention having hard drives spinning due to swap is _loud_. (this post isn't directed entirely at yourself, just in general at this thread) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
