On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 14:29 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Timothy Murphy <gayleard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Mike Bird wrote: > > > >> My loyalty is to keeping my systems secure and my users productive. > >> It's hard to believe that Red Hat would ship KDE 4.1 in F10, but if > >> it does KDE users will just choose another distro and install it. > > > > Speak for yourself. > > I doubt if you speak for anyone else. > > You certainly don't speak for this KDE user. > > > > -- > > He is speaking for me. I was a RedHat / Fedora user 10 years, 1 month > ago, I became an Ubuntu user. > > Being a beta tester for RedHat is OK as a way of life, but the other > companies for which I test stuff give me free samples :) > > It never came clear to me until I read Ann Wilson's post in this > thread: "We should always remember that Fedora > does not set out to be the stable desktop required in most production > situations. You use it at your peril, The fact that it actually > works in most situations is a bonus." > > It never really struck me that way: if you use Fedora, you don't have > a reason to expect that your PC will actually work. Well, I do need > it to start up sometimes so I can read this group. ---- I wouldn't recommend using Anne's comments as a barometer for your decision but rather your own expectations. It is true that Fedora, since it's inception, chooses to be a leading edge of development and yes, there is some stability that is sacrificed for that goal. There are a number of 'stable' versions of Linux including RHEL/RHWS/CentOS/Scientific Linux all based off RHEL or the various Debian variations including Ubuntu/Kubuntu and SuSE, Mandriva and so on. It never hurts to be familiar with all of the various Linux distributions and evaluate whether one of the others meets your expectations more than Fedora. My experience is that each Linux distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and that all Linux users benefit from having options. Generally, the notion of release early/often - even if all the features are fully implemented is a philosophy that has served Linux and all the packages on Linux well. In fact, it's clear that Microsoft and Apple release their new versions of their OS with many known bugs so I see a parallel there. When new versions of packages are incorporated, it hopefully garners a lot of attention, useful bug reporting by users and things are fixed over time. I actually appreciate being part of the process and have learned that software perfection never really exists. The best you ever get is that it performs to your expectations and I guess I always want more. Those on Fedora who use KDE and want everything to be perfect should probably still be on Fedora 8 though I really have few complaints with KDE and Fedora 9 these days...it does however suffer from feature regression. I appreciate that this is just a temporary condition and that many are working on rectifying these shortcomings. By the way...I've never experienced a Fedora (i386, x86_64 or ppc) installation that didn't work...so yeah, I actually expect it to work and it has always met that expectation. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
