On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 00:30 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 14:58 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > On Sat June 14 2008 14:21:29 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > stay here and write many, many bug reports, rally the troops in hopes of > > > making KDE 4.X the best KDE that is possible, take the positives the good > > > things and try to turn your face to bad things, the things you do not like > > > about KDE. In all the bad, there has to be something good. Okular is very > > > good. Evince is also. I can use either or to view multiple document > > > formats, ie., dvi, pdf, ps, etc. . Let the battle to which desktop in > > > Fedora 9 or higher begin, which one earns your respect and choice after > > > all, you can make other statements that can make more impact. > > > > There is reason to hope that in a couple of years KDE 4.x will be better > > than KDE 3.5, but for now KDE 4.x is unproductive for most users. > > > > Distros that don't provide KDE 3.5 for their KDE users while KDE 4.x is > > being developed will simply lose most of their KDE users. That is not a > > good thing for Fedora and that is not a good thing for Red Hat. And there > > are things I'd rather be doing than migrating a bunch of installations to > > some other distro. > > Installing CentOS tomorrow. I've got almost 1,500 members and > participating organizations in KDE's PIM Kaddressbook for our > Non-Profit. Can't do without it. I understand that it isn't in KDE4 as > of yet. No support for KDE3 so I gotta dance with who brung me. > > My own two cents is that it might have been better if KDE3 been left in > by default and introduce KDE4 into testing. That approach could've kept > people, like myself, putting up with all the other blowups. Fedora, You > all have just gone past the point of audience participation for me. This > is a damn sad day, but it's been one heckuva ride. ---- Ric, Please don't get sucked into being misinformed. Kaddressbook is in Fedora 9 and it is still the same old 3.5.9 version that has been around and it hasn't been updated to KDE-4 yet. The entire suite of KDE-PIM applications are still 3.5.x The issues of KDE-4 are the ones that we have been talking about - user space and the Desktop and they are mostly marginal and Fedora 9/KDE-4 are indeed usable. Nothing wrong at all with CentOS-5 or RHEL-5. I"m just saying if you are driving your decision based on whether you can use Kaddressbook on Fedora 9, then there's no reason to go to CentOS Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list