--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Justin Conover <justin.conover@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Justin Conover <justin.conover@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads? > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" <fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 10:54 AM > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Caolan McNamara > <caolanm@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 17:54 +0200, drago01 wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Justin Conover > > > <justin.conover@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > At 34MB it still takes > > > > time, but .deb is 50MB cheaper that the > .rpm. > > > > > > you are comparing two different packages (2.0.4 > and 2.4) > > > > There's a few other problems with a direct > comparison of sizes because > > they are two packages called "core" with > somewhat differing content. The > > Debian "core" package depends on a > "common" package which is an > > additional 27megs in size. The content of both of > these is included in > > the single Fedora "core" rpm. Additionally > the default help content is > > included in the Fedora "core" rpm, which is > available in the deb > > packages as help-en_US, which is another additional 11 > megs. > > > > Additionally displaying help itself requires the use > of the core writer > > libraries to render the html help, in Debian this > means that the > > "writer" package is a dependency of help, > and that's an additional 6megs > > in size in its .deb. While in Fedora writer is split > into the optional > > bits called "writer" and the core required > for use by help. Shrinking > > the "writer" rpm by approx 3 megs, and > inflating the "core" one by the > > same. > > > > To manually extract the various contents for > side-by-side comparison you > > can use > > > > rpm2cpio something.rpm | cpio -ivd > > vs > > ar x something.rpm > > tar xzf data.tar.gz > > > > C. > > > > -- > > fedora-test-list mailing list > > fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list > > > > Ok, everyone in this thread is replying to OOO, that was > not my intent. If > you compare the speed of getting updates in debian and > fedora, debian is > much faster. Forget package size at this point. Is it > parallel downloads > maybe. > > My main deal here is about the speed in which it takes to > download all > updates and install. I was merely trying to understand why > debian seems to > be much faster. > > I've been a loyal Fedora user since RH 6.2 or some were > in there :) so I'm > not leaving, just trying to understand when i play with it > once in awhile it > just handles downloads differently.-- As I understand, Fedora 9 was to have deltarpms by default, but it did not get through :(, OpenSuse uses them that is a + for them, As far as debian/ubuntu is concerned I cannot comment on them. But to update a rawhide machine/fedora 9 machine with dialup and that size of MB is pointless. I willa get back to testing when I have access to a higher speed connection last week in August. As of now I have to be selective as to which updates I pick up like kernel updates and such. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
