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Hi,

I've just installed Fedora 9 on my laptop, and unfortunately a few things are getting worse in Fedora.

Network management has always been awkward on Fedora and with Fedora 9 it's getting much worse.

1. I have always edited the config files directly to get things working. And still have to ( it's just a straight forward wireless connection ).
2. NetworkManager is now the default on install, BUT...
2.1 NetworkManager does not give you a wireless connection when no user is logged in. 2.1.1 How am I going to run any network service, NTP, NFS, httpd, etc..... without a network?
         2.1.2 How am I going to remotely administer my machines?
2.2 NetworkManager does not give you the ability to configure system wide networking services or policy.
   2.3 NetworkManager does not have any decent documentation.
3. Try using WPA and DHCP at the same time. It's never worked in this or any previous Fedora. Yes, NM will do it, but that's no good because of the previously stated problems. the network service won't do it because it tries to run DHCP immediately after bringing up the interfaces...It SHOULD wait until wpa_supplicant has run and the interface is available for traffic before kicking off DHCP...

GDM was functional, well behaved and stable in Fedora 8. I used it to log into other F8 machines locked away in difficult to get at racks. Fedora 9 has effectively removed that ability by shipping a GDM with gdmsetup. How many users depend on that functionality? I did, and won't be able to upgrade to F9 for any other machines.

A suggestion...

Use the fedora website/wiki to collect information about use cases. Find out what people depend on. Use that to provide a guarantee that functionality and usefulness won't go backwards. If it was ever setup, I'd tell you everything I do with my machines.

Russell

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