On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 06:58 -0500, Erich Zigler wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Mike Evans <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Whoah! > > Thanks both for this warning. This has put my plans to upgrade to F9 on > > immediate and indefinite hold. > > Mine as well unfortunately. > > > Just a thought - but I suppose a retro-grade to the supported version of > > Xorg is going to break too much? > > In one of the forum links I posted earlier in the thread there is a > walkthrough on how to install xorg from Fedora 8 and people have had > some success. > > > I know Fedora likes to be on the cutting edge - but releasing development > > snapshot as the default for something as fundamental as X? Hmm. > > This has been a hot topic as of late. Fedora's stance from what I've > read is that they were all set to release Xorg 1.5 but it missed its > release date. However to go back to an earlier version would have been > a lot of work and they deemed the pre-release version to be far enough > along to include it in the distro. > > Nvidia's position is that they don't support pre-release versions of Xorg. > > My position is that in shipping with a pre-release version of Xorg > that is not supported by the video card manafacturers I cannot use > Fedora 9 as it does not meet my requirements of a desktop. I'm not trying to start a flame war, but be aware it just a matter of time until you nVidia will be determine factor on which version of Linux you can or cannot use. A couple of examples: nVidia doesn't support Xen (under both Linux and Solaris) - would you consider dropping Fedora altogether if it decides that ship Xen-only kernels? > > I do not believe Fedora or Nvidia put the users who depend on the > proprietary video card drivers in this position knowingly but here we > are just the same. In essence, nVidia -is- putting users in this position by letting the nv driver stay an inch above (?) the generic vesa driver. nVidia users do -not- have an option: Either be limited by nVidia's choice of supported kernel and user-mode features (CONFIG_4KSTACKS anyone?) or get a partially working 2D only OSS driver. Having said all that, the choice is ours to make. I for one, plan on slowly phasing out the large fleet of nVidia cards that I have under my command and replace them with ATI/AMD cards - not because nVidia's drivers are bad (quite on the contrary) but because I rather pay twice for the same performance and not be limited by the manufacturer's (-any- manufacturer's) choice of what/when to support my hardware. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
