On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 11:02 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 15 May 2008 09:18:05 am Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 18:20 -0400, Mike Chalmers wrote: > > > What do y'all think of KDE 4? It doesn't seem to be as technical as > > > KDE 3 to me, I don't like that. The system configuration lacks > > > options, I can't figure out how to get things the way that I want > > > them, etc. I am not saying that it is not good, though. That maybe it > > > just needs more options. > > > > > > Just wondering what y'all thought. > > > > IMHO, KDE4-release was underwhelming and shouldn't have been released > > until it reached feature a parity with KDE 3.5.x. > > IMO, bugs and crashes can be forgiven - but not having an option to set > > the order of applets on a panel (only added in 4.0.3?) or change the > > appearance of the panel was inexcusable. > > > Why? What exactly do you want to do that you can't? It's true that > improvements are coming all the time, but the panel arrangement, for example, > arrived in time for F9 release. The start move->stop move is counter-intuitive. I cannot remove the zoom applet. (KDE #154535) GNOME tray icons appear get corrupted. (KDE #155381) Logout/Shutdown/etc under Leave/kick-off must be selected twice. (Fedora #441260) Panel resizing breaks more-or-less everything. (KDE #158762). Beyond that: The new kick-off menu is... @#%^@#$^@#^@#@#!!!~#!% and the classic menu is far too spartan. I cannot modify the dock's lock and feel. (Fix should land in rawhide any time now - though AFAIK, transparency is not supported) Beyond that, I've got a heavily customized KDE 3.5.9 desktop: komposite, transparency, icons, kwin rules, etc. For now, for -me-, KDE4 just doesn't offer any killer feature that makes it worth while. > > > Having said all that, the development of KDE 4.1 is showing great > > promise and unless something bad happens, it should be a viable KDE > > 3.5.x replacement. > > > > As for me, I'm sticking with F8/3.5.9 (and CentOS5/3.5.9) - while > > keeping a close eye on Rawhide/4.1. Once it 4.1 hits F9, I'll make the > > switch. > > > The trouble with that approach is that the developers don't get the useful > feedback. There's only so much they can do without users. I know, but the best that I can do (beyond switching to F9) is to keep testing KDE4 on my rawhide machine until I consider it usable. - Gilboa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list