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I can not get any videos to work on my system.  Please give me
information on how this can be set up.  When do you expect nvida to be
up and running?On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 12:00 -0400,
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>    1. Re: tar backup on tape doesn't work (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
>    2. Re: Aloowing access to specific samba users (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
>    3. Re: A sneak peek at Fedora 9 (Bill Davidsen)
>    4. Re: A sneak peek at Fedora 9 (Bill Davidsen)
>    5. Re: using the internal modem on a Thinkpad T61
>       (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
>    6. Re: Help with either bash or find... (Bill Davidsen)
>    7. Re: upgrade from fedora core 6 to 9 (max bianco)
>    8. Re: LVM & retroactively creating encrypted /home partition
>       (Bill Davidsen)
>    9. Re: Wpa_supplicant mystery (Bill Davidsen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:00:27 -0500
> From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: tar backup on tape doesn't work
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <4825B88B.9030204@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> mohammed wrote:
> > Hi!
> > How did you solve the problem with 
> > mt -f /dev/st0 status
> > i get this 
> > /dev/st0: Device or resource busy
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> Are you running it as root? Is the tape drive doing something when 
> you try to run the command? Remember, most tape drives do a bunch of 
> stuff when you insert a tape, so it may take a while before you can 
> access the drive.
> 
> Mikkel
> -- 
> 
>    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:10:15 -0500
> From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Aloowing access to specific samba users
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Bob Latham wrote:
> > 
> > Anyway, I have added the user to the share but of course windows still
> > refuses to have anything to do with it. I'm guessing but windows doesn't
> > ask for a user name and password as I would expect (error: The account is
> > not authorized to log in from this station) so I think that linux is using
> > the password the PC user is logged on to the PC with which is not what I
> > want at all. How do you make it ask for a user name and password? Bah.
> > Exasperation! 
> > 
> > I've only being trying just over a week to share a folder with a user name
> > and password so that any windows user that knows the password can access
> > the share. A 30 second job on W98 its like climbing Everest on Linux.
> > 
> A couple of things - first, with Win98 you are normally using share 
> rather then user security when you share a directory on that 
> machine. Also, because Windows and Linux uses different password 
> encryption, you have to give Samba users a password in addition to 
> the standard Linux password. They can be the same, and it can be set 
> up so that they are kept in sync once created.
> 
> If you want to use the Linux passwords directly, you have to tell 
> Windows to yous unencrypted passwords. This is somewhat of a 
> security risk. This is covered in the Samba documentation.
> 
> Mikkel
> -- 
> 
>    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:20:16 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: A sneak peek at Fedora 9
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <4825BD30.7030306@xxxxxxx>
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> Tim wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 20:56 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> This smells like flash.
> > 
> > Looks like it, too...  But what does flash smell like?  ;-)
> > 
> > It's hardly a "sneak peak," though.  You don't really get to see
> > anything of it, just a few screen shots.  You just watch this lecture
> > that goes on for about an hour and eighteen minutes, with some audience
> > members asking some questions that you can't hear.
> > 
> > You could have found out just as much by reading an article, and wasted
> > far less of your time doing so.
> > 
> But I can't read an article and do something else, while I can listen 
> (in)attentively, and when some feature comes up which matters to me, I 
> can watch. Can't figure out how to get the image to go full screen, tho, 
> need a magnifying glass for the slides. :-(
> 
> I have FC9beta with installs running in a virtual machine under kvm, and 
> other than having lost my notes on how to make the VM outside accessible 
> so I can test it as a server I'm happy. I installed the beta, then made 
> a qcow copy for the updates as of May 9, then did a qcow copy of that to 
> actually do my playing. So I can give the kids copies of the updates 
> image and they can play in their own machines. Got to love kvm.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
>    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:21:04 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: A sneak peek at Fedora 9
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <4825BD60.8040808@xxxxxxx>
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> 
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 12:58 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> >> 2008/5/8 Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>> Digg it if you like it:
> >>> http://digg.com/linux_unix/What_s_new_under_the_hat_A_sneak_peek_at_Fedora_9
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Does this video require non-free software or am I missing something?
> >> Not to be a stick in the mud or anything.
> >>
> >> Max
> >>
> > I just have the usual software. mplayer, vlc , totem and xine and I can
> > see the video. 
> 
> Could see it, couldn't blow it up to full screen.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
>    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:12:45 -0500
> From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: using the internal modem on a Thinkpad T61
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <4825BB6D.4070706@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> Globe Trotter wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Does anyone know how to use the internal modem on a Thinkpad in
> > F8? I could not get it to be recognized.
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > Trotter
> > 
> It is probably a software modem. (Win modem) You may be able to find 
> the information you need to get it working at:
> 
> http://www.linmodems.org/
> 
> Mikkel
> -- 
> 
>    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
> 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:37:48 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Help with either bash or find...
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <4825C14C.5010408@xxxxxxx>
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> Gordon Messmer wrote:
> > Todd Zullinger wrote:
> >> I think something similar with xargs would work too:
> >>
> >> find -name '*.mpc' -print0 | \
> >>     xargs -0 -i mppdec "{}" "`echo {} | sed s/.mpc/.wav`"
> >>   
> > 
> > No, because the section in backticks would be executed by the shell, 
> > before xargs.
> > 
> > xargs can't be used to run anything with shell substitution.  It doesn't 
> > call system().
> > 
> It's ugly to use substitution, but being pedantic you can use "bash -c 
> cmd" and maybe "exec" to do what you want.
> 
> Note that I never actually *do* it that way, I'm just noting that if you 
> insist on that solution it isn't impossible, just ugly.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
>    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:44:31 -0400
> From: "max bianco" <maximilianbianco@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: upgrade from fedora core 6 to 9
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
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> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 13:00 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> >> I have noticed that there isn't much traffic about SELinux across this
> >> list.
> >
> > Perhaps not now, but in the past there's been conspiracy theories
> > abound, and lots of arguments for and against.
> >
> 
> Dare I ask?
> 
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:59:09 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: LVM & retroactively creating encrypted /home partition
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <4825C64D.5080506@xxxxxxx>
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> 
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Since I had a bad experience with LVM in F6, I've always ignored it
> > and created partitions the "old fashioned" way.
> > 
> > However, some people  here do the default install of Fedora and it
> > uses LVM and in some cases people FORGET that they want their /home on
> > a separate partition.  So the installer creates a single gigantic
> > logical volume in which everything is mounted.
> > 
> > See:
> > 
> > lvm> lvs -v
> >     Finding all logical volumes
> >   LV       VG         #Seg Attr   LSize   Maj Min KMaj KMin Origin
> > Snap%  Move Copy%  Log LV UUID
> >   LogVol00 VolGroup00    1 -wi-ao 295.91G  -1  -1 253  0
> >                    BSOijT-X3UT-CwpS-Ncdo-7hX8-vfiU-iXzuiA
> >   LogVol01 VolGroup00    1 -wi-ao   1.94G  -1  -1 253  1
> >                    EG5Jgg-7VaB-megf-63k2-7n15-sCfn-YH6eNs
> > 
> > Before upgrading from Fedora 8 to 9, I want to separate the /home
> > partition from the rest of this.  But I'm a little unsure of the best
> > approach because I anticipate trying the encrypted partition in Fedora
> > 9.  I would rather not just completely reformat the hard disk.  I'd
> > like to set the /home stuff aside on its own place, and then let the
> > installer erase F8 and do a new install.
> > 
> > I should run lvm and  shrink LogVol00 down with lvresize like this:
> > 
> > lvm> lvresize -L 100G
> > 
> > I should not run
> > 
> > lvm> lvcreate VolGroup00 -L 195.91G
> > 
> > I should wait for F9 to do that.  Correct?  I wait because encryption
> > cannot be put on retroactively a logical volume.
> > 
> > Suppose I do an upgrade to F9. That would not destroy LogVol00.
> > Suppose further I'm able to use the custom partition tool to have it
> > use my empty space for the /home.
> > 
> > The part that has me a bit confused is how I'll get the data off the
> > old /home directory in LogVol00 onto the encrypted /home that will
> > exist in LogVol02.  I mean, if F9 creates a new /home in the empty
> > space, and it mounts that under /home (still thinking of it like an
> > ordinary partition, I guess), does that block access to /home on
> > LogVol00 ?
> > 
> If this were me, I would hook up a USB external drive, back up to that, 
> do the install, copy the data back, and be happy.
> 
> And, because I'm moderately paranoid, I'd save it on the external drive 
> encrypted.
> 
> The most common thing to forget when reinstalling is saving the host 
> keys for ssh and anything else you use with keys or certificates.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
>    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:07:06 -0400
> From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Wpa_supplicant mystery
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <4825C82A.7080806@xxxxxxx>
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> 
> Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > On Saturday 10 May 2008, Adalbert Prokop wrote:
> >> Timothy Murphy wrote on Saturday 10 May 2008:
> >>
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >>>>> If in fact wpa_supplicant is a necessary part of NetworkManager
> >>>>> even if one is not using WPA,
> >>>>> would it not make more sense to change its name?
> >>>> NetworkManager uses wpa_supplicant to do network security this way it
> >>>> doesnt
> >>>> need to reinvent the wheel.  it is the same on all distros.
> >>> What is the same on all distros?
> >>> Wpa_supplicant? NetworkManager?
> >>> NetworkManager using wpa_supplicant?
> >>>
> >>> If in fact a program called wpa_supplicant is run
> >>> in order to establish WiFi security
> >>> even if WPA is not being used,
> >> wpa_supplicant can also setup WEP encryption, static or based on RADIUS
> >> authentication. AFAIK NetworkManager uses wpa_supplicant as the only
> >> backend to WiFi security. It surely has its advantages, because this way
> >> you have only to deal with *one* helper problem.
> >>
> >> I don't know if NM needs wpa_supplicant on unencrypted connections.
> >>
> >> Besides, NM is OK if you have rather simple network environment, e.g. only
> >> one WLAN card and one LAN card, you use only static WPA or WEP keys, you
> >> have a DHCP server, and so on, and so on...
> >>
> >> Each time the setup is more complex (no LAN DHCP, two WLAN cards or WPA +
> >> PEAP/MSCHAPv2) my experience tells me that it simply can't do it. (V0.6.7
> >> on Ubuntu.) The non-existent documentation does not help either.
> > 
> > That NM is ancient,  Fedora-8's and 9's are much more flexible,  they support 
> > multiple devices.  including mobile broadband devices,  many more security 
> > options.
> > 
> Documentation? NM has been around since FC6, and people seem to keep 
> saying that the documentation is being worked on. At least on FC9beta it 
> really didn't work, ignored the hardwire, and brought the WiFi up on a 
> random open AP. I live between an apartment building and a college, 
> there are enough open APs available to choose.
> 

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