On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 11:43 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 11:50 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > I don't agree with that- flash is well overused on the web by web > > developers too lazy to do a job the right way so that everyone can use > > it. That said, if ogg is supposed to be OSS, then that would meant > > that windows users could view it, and I would think that Mac users > > could too- so there you have it: a better solution. Just requires a > > little more thought. > > Though that's putting the shoe on the other foot. Now, it's the hapless > Windows user, who typically would have no idea how to add ogg support to > their box, who's got to figure out how to view something. > > One reason that you won't get widespread support for open systems, like > ogg, is that those who develop such things don't want to support digital > rights management (i.e. letting outsiders control what the user can and > cannot do), and content suppliers typically want to control what you can > do (e.g. they stream audio/video so that you can watch it, but you can't > save it - which makes dial-up viewing next to impossible). Content > suppliers will use something else that suits them, and damn the users. > > Whilst there are restrictions on Flash, and hazards with using it, it > will have the largest user base, already, for being able to simply view > something non-static in the web browser. > > I just had a very quick search around, and I couldn't see a way to add > ogg viewing to MSIE (e.g. theora). Sure, I can add things so that I can > play ogg vorbis audio files in a player, but not view embedded content. > And embedded content is what most suppliers want to use. > > Theora would need quite a bit of improvement, too. All of the ogg > theora videos that I have seen have looked really crappy video quality. Actually its quite simple to allow mediaplayer to use the ogg codec, and a link would make it easy for them to install and use. As for static content- they really need to just get over it. But failing that, then why not stream? Come what may a user will always find a way to save it if they really want to. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
