--- Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:08:00 -0700 (PDT) > Paul Shaffer <ace_wizard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > If Redhat's legal staff spent half the time > finding ways to make things doable instead of > playing the "just say no" game, most of these > problems we speak of would become administrivia > instead of broken systems. > > In my experience (and I work with these people) they > spend their time > trying to find ways to make things doable, but > sometimes the US legal > system has its head so far up its backside it can > suck its teeth. > > The people who can change that are not a few lawyers > - it takes -the > people- to do so. > Yes, it takes the people to do so. But how many are going to do something about it. If for instance the people decide to move Fedora to outside the US to another country, will they then open up and include everything under the sun? Are all the reasons behind not including *this or that* because Fedora is run from inside the US and because of that cannot include the stuff? It makes me wonder as well, why other distros with origin in the US include some of the stuff that many complain about, ie., Slackware, PCLinuxOS, etc. They include some of the stuff that is non free. The Debians, *buntus and other linuxes also include some of the stuff. I wonder why they include it, it is the same legal system after all. Why can they do it and not Fedora? I hear many arguments against the US, and that it is a free country, but no country in the world is perfect. All forms of government have their flaws. If Fedora is based here in the U.S, and say it moved outside US territory, how will that change if any the circumstances surrounding the inclusion of certain software? BTW, The GPL was created where, is it a universal document that has jurisdiction across all countries across the world or only on the US? I know about the philosophy behind Fedora, but many said that when it was unleashed onto the community. The community would then take care of the stuff that was prohibited to be released to the users. That has not happened. It is still under the same restrictions as it was before. The U.S legal system is at fault. Can anyone do anything about it? If they tried to do something, lobbyists and big business/corporations would stop it. Lost case, Either way we argue for/against we cannot do anything to change the status quo. We at least have the power to do what we need to do to make our machines run the way we want them to do and we have choices. Thanks to God, they have not restricted the use of Linux in the USA. I remember that there were some people trying to put policeware onto our computers and that running linux would be illegal. http://www.stoppoliceware.org/ http://www.eff.org/ Now the U.S laws are so bad that the patriot act violates some Bills in the Bill of Rights. Now police can search you even if they do not have a search warrant. You are correct Mr. Cox there is not much we can do against all of this. Regards, Antonio > > Alan > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
