On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Francis Earl <lunitik@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think the main thing you're missing here is, no one really cares > whether Linux takes off on the desktop, in fact, Red Hat has said it > won't try because it's not cost effective. > > An XP desktop costs around $200 whether it's added onto the cost of your > machine or not. Linux generally is between $50-100 from most that try to > sell it, but everyone goes for Windows anyways. You have to take several > steps to get it onto that machine, and you're still not going to be the > first choice because you're not what people are familiar with. > > Red Hat charges in the thousands per machine for support to > corporations, that is where the money is, and by comparison, the home > desktop is chump change to them. That is without marketing costs, > without much of anything but a strong name in the corporate space. > > Why should they pay around $15 per user for software the user didn't pay > for, just so they can play codecs that aren't relevant to the people > making them their money? They are available within the community, so > what is the issue? You'd rather Red Hat go out of business, just so it's > easier for you to play a damn audio file, or better 3D performance for > your games? > > There is nothing you can really do about nvidia and ati, nothing but > reverse engineer things, or force them to open up the specs. There is > people trying to do that stuff, via Nouveau for Nvidia cards for > instance. There are even legal ways to get codecs (fluendo) and other > equally easy ways. Red Hat would rather fight to get those companies to > play ball right than just so "ok, we'll do it your way". > > You run Linux today because Red Hat didn't say "ok, put it in, but be > gentle" to every corporation that told it to bend over. Today, Linux is > big business, and is really making strides even on the home desktop. > > You wouldn't even have heard of Linux though if it wasn't for RedHat. > Why should they go back on what has made them successful just because > the current batch of Linux newcomers can't figure out how to add a yum > repo or read docs? Then, that IS why Ubuntu is so popular today... but > again, at least they're providing mindshare, so they're doing their > part. > > I just hope they're not harming the rest of us by making it justifiable > to not open their hardware to Linux devs, that they are teaching people > the right way to do things. I hope they are doing more to wise users to > better codecs - codecs that allow them to actually OWN the media, and > share it legally. > > I don't see much of that though, all I see are a bunch of Ubuntu guys > wandering out to the rest of the Linux community, and expecting Ubuntu's > flawed beliefs to be prevalent everywhere. > > To answer your question, yes it does feel good being part of a minority > that asks "how are they able to get away with that?", and makes an > effort to ensure the industry can't rape users anymore. It speaks more > loudly for the ignorance of society at large that these things are even > an issue. > > Amen. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list