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Today's Topics:
1. Re: two questions (Tim)
2. Re: Samba won't dance (Mike Chambers)
3. Sysad Burma Shave nuggets (was Re: some attack to fedora
machine ) (Andrew Kelly)
4. Re: two questions (Jon Ingason)
5. ssh -R (tony.chamberlain@xxxxxxxxx)
6. Re: ssh -R (Manuel Ar?stegui)
7. Re: ssh -R (Steve Searle)
8. canonical approach to shared sound? (Matthew Miller)
9. Re: Samba won't dance (more info) (Claude Jones)
10. respawn java process (James Pifer)
11. Re: ssh -R (Chris G)
12. Re: Samba won't dance (more info) (Tim)
13. Re: Samba won't dance (more info) (max bianco)
14. Re: canonical approach to shared sound? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
15. Re: respawn java process (Tim)
16. Re: Problem with sata2 and raid1. (Bruno Wolff III)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:53:47 +0930
From: Tim
Subject: Re: two questions
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1208233427.4264.6.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 00:42 +0200, mattias jonsson wrote:
> ok
> i'm blind how can i insatll fedora
> in debian and ubuntu there are intergrated braille support
> and exist fedora 9?
There's one or two blind users on this list, I seem to recall that one
of them was Scott Berry (from around the end of last year). Perhaps if
you re-posted with a suitable subject line, someone who knows more about
the subject in question might notice your message and respond. Messages
with inappropriate subject descriptions get ignored by a lot of people.
--
(This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's
important to the thread.)
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:42:23 -0500
From: Mike Chambers
Subject: Re: Samba won't dance
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1208252543.2825.5.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 23:49 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> OK, I did it. The version on the PCLinux box is 3.0.23b-PCLOS2007 and the one
> on Fedora is 3.0.28a-0.fc8. The result is interesting. Now, smbk4 on Fedora
> is listing both the machine's IP addresses upstairs, and their shares, but,
> it's still unable to mount those shares...some progress, tho.
Maybe dns issue? Are all the boxes setup via dns correctly and listed
in full on whatever the dns box is? Maybe list each one in the dns
boxes /etc/hosts file or relook at your dns or something for locally and
not so much outside of it?
Haven't read the previous few posts except teh last 5 or so, so haven't
been following along on your progress. Sorry if these were already
tried.
--
Mike Chambers
Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc..
mikec302@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:36:19 +0200
From: Andrew Kelly
Subject: Sysad Burma Shave nuggets (was Re: some attack to fedora
machine )
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1208255779.6233.42.camel@thegrind>
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On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 00:05 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 15:19 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
>
> > You know, if I could turn writing stuff like that my day
> > job, I think I'd be a lot happier camper.
> >
> > Hmm, to be honest, exactly that scenario has been preoccupying most of
> > my free brain cycles lately...
>
> Try using Hiaku's or knock-offs of the old Burma Shave signs for your
> subject lines when replying to tech support requests. I did.
> During Bob Young's reign at Red Hat, we could do pretty much as we
> pleased, as long as the customer was happy with the reply content
> itself. We pretty much sobered up with Matt. Matt could smile, but not
> with the gnome eye-twinkles that Bob had. I bet the
> pinball machines are long gone. Ric
>
>
> Partition My Drive?, What Do I Do?
> We'll Start With Fdisk, To Fix It For You.
> RedHat Saves.
>
>
Tasty!
Port 22 is Open! My box is in Danger!
Iptables Can Help. You're Safe as a Lamb in a Manger.
RedHat Staves.
Andy
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:16:03 +0200
From: Jon Ingason
Subject: Re: two questions
To: For users of Fedora
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mattias jonsson skrev:
| ok
| i'm blind how can i insatll fedora
| in debian and ubuntu there are intergrated braille support
I think you should look att orca
| and exist fedora 9?
In few week if I am not wrong.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-March/msg00011.html
|
|
| -----
| mattias
| mobil 0763396420
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:33:54 +0000
From: tony.chamberlain@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: ssh -R
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The following is for CentOS 4.5
We have an internal network (192.168.5.0/255.255.255.0).
We have one machine reachable from inside and outside
(NOT on the 192.168.5 network). Just for this example
call it 10.20.30.40 (though that is not its real address.
I don't put the real address, for security concerns here).
Anyway my machine is 192.168.5.19 so from my machine
I do an
ssh -l root -R 10022:127.0.0.1:22 10.20.30.40
Then I log into 10.20.30.40 from another machine and do a
ssh -l tony -p 10022 127.0.0.1
which gets me into my machine. Test passes. Problem is, by
the time I get home, my ssh -l root -R 10022:127.0.0.1:22 10.20.30.40
has timed out or something and I can no longer get to my local machine.
Do you know what I can do to keep it from timing out (or maybe locking up)?
I do have root access to both machines so if there is something in
sshd_config to change, I can do it.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:39:35 +0200
From: Manuel Ar?stegui
Subject: Re: ssh -R
To: For users of Fedora
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On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 11:33 +0000, tony.chamberlain@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> The following is for CentOS 4.5
>
>
> We have an internal network (192.168.5.0/255.255.255.0).
> We have one machine reachable from inside and outside
> (NOT on the 192.168.5 network). Just for this example
> call it 10.20.30.40 (though that is not its real address.
> I don't put the real address, for security concerns here).
>
> Anyway my machine is 192.168.5.19 so from my machine
> I do an
>
> ssh -l root -R 10022:127.0.0.1:22 10.20.30.40
>
> Then I log into 10.20.30.40 from another machine and do a
>
> ssh -l tony -p 10022 127.0.0.1
>
> which gets me into my machine. Test passes. Problem is, by
> the time I get home, my ssh -l root -R 10022:127.0.0.1:22 10.20.30.40
> has timed out or something and I can no longer get to my local
> machine.
> Do you know what I can do to keep it from timing out (or maybe locking
> up)?
> I do have root access to both machines so if there is something in
> sshd_config to change, I can do it.
What's you ClientAliveInterval value in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
Manuel.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:53:40 +0100
From: Steve Searle
Subject: Re: ssh -R
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <20080415115340.GB6311@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Around 12:33pm on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 (UK time), tony.chamberlain@xxxxxxxxx scrawled:
> Do you know what I can do to keep it from timing out (or maybe locking up)?
> I do have root access to both machines so if there is something in
> sshd_config to change, I can do it.
Try
ClientAliveInterval 30
ClientAliveCountMax 5
in sshd_config on the server - see
http://www.stevesearle.com/tech/centos5.0.svr.html#securessh
Steve
--
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:10:14 -0400
From: Matthew Miller
Subject: canonical approach to shared sound?
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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I do the not-so-rare "trick" of having two X sessions running, allowing
ctrl-alt-f7 / ctrl-alt-f8 to be a very painless fast-user-switch.
In order for this to work, I want more lax permissions on the sound devices.
(All members of group "sndshare" get access.) Previously, this was
accomplished by changing the settings for the device class in a file
in /etc/security/console.perms.
That device class no longer exists in that file. I assume this is because
there is some new special modern udev way of accomplishing the same goal.
But, since all of the udev .rules files contain the line "# do not edit this
file, it will be overwritten on update", I'm not quite sure where is proper.
Plus, the 40-alsa-rules doesn't seem to be quite comprehensive -- some of
the devices must be created via defaults somewhere else.
So, what's the Right Thing To Do? (I'm using F9beta but I think the same
thing applies to F8, which I skipped.)
--
Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx
Boston University Linux ------>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:10:56 -0400
From: Claude Jones
Subject: Re: Samba won't dance (more info)
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <200804150810.56479.cjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Mon April 14 2008, Craig White wrote:
> > > You can ping each of these systems from the Fedora box?
> >
> > just tried this and no, the machines that don't display their IP or show
> > their shares aren't responding to pings
>
> ----
> clue here Claude...this isn't a samba issue
well, the problem is, the importation of the smb.conf file from the PCLinuxOS
box seems to have gotten things working -- at least, it was after that that
things worked; I did a number of things last evening, and I've noticed that
sometimes, changes you make to Samba networking don't 'take' instantly, even
when you restart smb and nmb services; I did also swap out the cable last
night, but immediately after doing that, there was no change
the only remaining problem is that mounting is messed up - I can't mount my
shares from the Fedora box, even though they mount readily from the PCLinuxOS
machine, but at least now, all machines that are up on the lan are showing up
in the list, and all their shares are visible
so, how does this all compute with the inability to ping? - I just don't know!
I said I wanted to really figure out what was causing these problems,
yesterday, but, I don't feel any closer to that understanding than I did
before I started all this.....
I need to go through those two smb.conf configuration files and see what's
different, for one thing -- that should tell me something.
--
Claude Jones
Brunswick, MD, USA
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:47:23 -0400
From: James Pifer
Subject: respawn java process
To: Fedora
Message-ID: <1208263643.1941.15.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
I run a small java program called jredirect for forwarding a port. The
problem is after a while the process halts. I don't know why and there
aren't a lot of options, such as logging.
It's run like this:
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/bin/java -cp /usr/java/jredirect/jredirect.jar jredirect.Main --poolsize 50 host_ip:src_port-dst_ip:dst_port
So to forward 443 to a nonstandard port you could do:
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_03/bin/java -cp /usr/java/jredirect/jredirect.jar jredirect.Main --poolsize 50 192.168.1.30:443-192.168.1.40:445
How could I set this up to respawn of the process goes away?
AND
How quickly does something respawn?
I've also tried to get port forwarding working with iptables, figuring
it would be more stable, but I could not get it to work. Even if I open
iptables wide open it doesn't work for me. Here are the commands I've
tried:
/sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.30 --dport 443 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.40:445
/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 192.168.1.30 --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
The examples of forwarding I've seen usually include -i plus the
interface, like -i eth0. I do not have this in there because the address
I need it associated to is a virtual, so it's eth0:2 for example. After
running the commands above I can run iptables -L and it looks ok.
Any suggestions or recommendations are appreciated.
Thanks,
James
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:20:14 +0100
From: Chris G
Subject: Re: ssh -R
To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20080415132014.GA6772@th-shell-1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:33:54AM +0000, tony.chamberlain@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>
>
> The following is for CentOS 4.5
> We have an internal network (192.168.5.0/255.255.255.0).
> We have one machine reachable from inside and outside
> (NOT on the 192.168.5 network). Just for this example
> call it 10.20.30.40 (though that is not its real address.
> I don't put the real address, for security concerns here).
> Anyway my machine is 192.168.5.19 so from my machine
> I do an
> ssh -l root -R 10022:127.0.0.1:22 10.20.30.40
> Then I log into 10.20.30.40 from another machine and do a
> ssh -l tony -p 10022 127.0.0.1
> which gets me into my machine. Test passes. Problem is, by
> the time I get home, my ssh -l root -R 10022:127.0.0.1:22 10.20.30.40
> has timed out or something and I can no longer get to my local machine.
> Do you know what I can do to keep it from timing out (or maybe locking up)?
> I do have root access to both machines so if there is something in
> sshd_config to change, I can do it.
I have a cron job which runs the script below every 15 minutes to see if
the ssh is still running and restart it if it isn't:-
#
#
# Script to set up a secure tunnel from home system
#
cn=`ps -ef | grep "ssh -l chris -R 50022:apollo:22 -N xx.yy.zz.aa" |
grep -v 'grep ssh'`
if [ -n "$cn" ]
then
echo `date` "hssh is running" >/home/chris/tmp/hssh.log
else
/proj/chris/bin/ssh -l chris -R 50022:apollo:22 -N xx.yy.zz.aa
fi
It means that even if there *is* a connection which has got screwed
up for some reason I can kill the ssh running on my home machine and
within 15 minutes the cron job and script above will start a new
session.
--
Chris Green
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:06:10 +0930
From: Tim
Subject: Re: Samba won't dance (more info)
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1208266570.8952.26.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 08:10 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> I've noticed that sometimes, changes you make to Samba networking
> don't 'take' instantly, even when you restart smb and nmb services
That's the nature of the beast. Changes don't happen instantly, and
changes invoke another contest round for who gets to be the master,
which can introduce a lot of delays. Dynamic DNS will make things worse
(DHCP that doles out the same IPs to the same machines should be the
same as static IPs).
Watching a friend's all-XP network, over a number of years, has shown me
that SMB doesn't work any better in its native environment (frequent
breakdowns in traffic part way through use, unable to see other
computers on the network, etc.).
As I've been watching this thread, name resolution sprang to mind as the
first thing: What method is used (hosts, DNS, lmhosts) in which order,
and whether they have the answer. And SELinux booleans related to
Samba.
But being unable to ping some machines sounded like more basic
networking issues at hand (hint: make use of the audio options of the
ping command - if you're working on the network throughout the house,
you can hear the results of behind the desk, or in the next room, cable
fumbling when you can't see the screen).
Elsewhere in your responses you commented about the topology of your
network, and I'm wondering if you're trying to work across what's really
more than one subnet, while treating it as if it's all one subnet. That
rather depends on how your wireless set-up is set up.
We're yet to see your smb.conf files. You should probably post both the
problem one, and the one that used to work fine for you.
It's been ages since I've bothered with Samba. But I used to on a
network with fixed and dynamic IPs. That had an integrated DNS server
that resolved all internal addresses correctly, and no computers had
their hostname or domain name on the 127.0.0.1 line in the hosts file.
All computers were on the same physical subnet. All Samba
configurations in the same workgroup (a single all-upper-case word).
One machine set to be the master browser, WINS server, and DNS proxy for
them rest. Others deliberately configured not to be masters. Samba
"hosts allow" set to the network address (192.168.1.), likewise for
"interfaces = 192.168.1.2/24", remote browse sync and remote announce
addresses set appropriately, name resolve order = host wins lmhosts
bcast. And that generally worked fine across several different Linuxes
and Windows releases. I got mine working looking through man smb.conf
and the smb.conf file as originally installed.
--
(This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's
important to the thread.)
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:38:50 -0400
From: "max bianco"
Subject: Re: Samba won't dance (more info)
To: "For users of Fedora"
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Claude Jones wrote:
> On Mon April 14 2008, Craig White wrote:
> > > > You can ping each of these systems from the Fedora box?
> > >
> > > just tried this and no, the machines that don't display their IP or show
> > > their shares aren't responding to pings
> >
> > ----
> > clue here Claude...this isn't a samba issue
>
> well, the problem is, the importation of the smb.conf file from the PCLinuxOS
> box seems to have gotten things working -- at least, it was after that that
> things worked; I did a number of things last evening, and I've noticed that
> sometimes, changes you make to Samba networking don't 'take' instantly, even
> when you restart smb and nmb services; I did also swap out the cable last
> night, but immediately after doing that, there was no change
>
> the only remaining problem is that mounting is messed up - I can't mount my
> shares from the Fedora box, even though they mount readily from the PCLinuxOS
> machine, but at least now, all machines that are up on the lan are showing up
> in the list, and all their shares are visible
>
> so, how does this all compute with the inability to ping? - I just don't know!
> I said I wanted to really figure out what was causing these problems,
> yesterday, but, I don't feel any closer to that understanding than I did
> before I started all this.....
>
> I need to go through those two smb.conf configuration files and see what's
> different, for one thing -- that should tell me something.
>
>
> --
> Claude Jones
> Brunswick, MD, USA
>
Is this fedora box a dual boot setup?was it ever? have you updated the
bios? otherwise tested the hardware? Are you sure the firewall is
working properly? have you port scanned the box to verify what the
firewall reports? The PCOSLinux experiment , you ran that live cd on
the fedora box with the problems right?
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:10:14 -0430
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan"
Subject: Re: canonical approach to shared sound?
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1208266814.29829.37.camel@bree>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 08:10 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> I do the not-so-rare "trick" of having two X sessions running, allowing
> ctrl-alt-f7 / ctrl-alt-f8 to be a very painless fast-user-switch.
>
> In order for this to work, I want more lax permissions on the sound devices.
> (All members of group "sndshare" get access.) Previously, this was
> accomplished by changing the settings for the device class in a file
> in /etc/security/console.perms.
>
> That device class no longer exists in that file. I assume this is because
> there is some new special modern udev way of accomplishing the same goal.
> But, since all of the udev .rules files contain the line "# do not edit this
> file, it will be overwritten on update", I'm not quite sure where is proper.
>
> Plus, the 40-alsa-rules doesn't seem to be quite comprehensive -- some of
> the devices must be created via defaults somewhere else.
>
> So, what's the Right Thing To Do? (I'm using F9beta but I think the same
> thing applies to F8, which I skipped.)
AFAIK this should Just Work. ConsoleKit is designed to do this without
hassle, so your best bet may be to back out any changes you've made.
I've used it successfully on F8. You can't play sound on two consoles at
the same time, but they can alternate, which seems reasonable.
poc
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:21:57 +0930
From: Tim
Subject: Re: respawn java process
To: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <1208267517.8952.39.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 08:47 -0400, James Pifer wrote:
> I've also tried to get port forwarding working with iptables, figuring
> it would be more stable, but I could not get it to work. Even if I
> open iptables wide open it doesn't work for me. Here are the commands
> I've tried:
>
> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 192.168.1.30 --dport 443 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.40:445
> /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 192.168.1.30 --dport 443 -j ACCEPT
You've got different port numbers on the top line.
> The examples of forwarding I've seen usually include -i plus the
> interface, like -i eth0. I do not have this in there because the
> address I need it associated to is a virtual, so it's eth0:2 for
> example. After running the commands above I can run iptables -L and it
> looks ok.
>
> Any suggestions or recommendations are appreciated.
Yonks ago, I had iptables rule set up on a PC which used dial-up
networking to connect to my ISP, and had rules to connect people to a
webserver on an internal machine at 192.168.1.1, and onto a different
port (they asked for 8000, and were put through to 80). It sounds a
similar situation to the rules you'd written above, mine were like the
following, and without any "FORWARD" rules.
iptables --append INPUT --jump ACCEPT --protocol tcp --in-interface ppp+ --destination-port 8000
iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING --protocol tcp --in-interface ppp+ --destination-port 8000 --jump DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.1:80
For complex rules, I always stuck to the long form, rather than use
abbreviations. They make it simpler to follow, without having to refer
back to the manual for explanations. But they're equivalent.
--
(This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's
important to the thread.)
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:23:25 -0500
From: Bruno Wolff III
Subject: Re: Problem with sata2 and raid1.
To: Peter Boy
Cc: For users of Fedora
Message-ID: <20080415112325.GB8693@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:51:05 +0200,
Peter Boy wrote:
> Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 16:17 +0200 schrieb Erik P. Olsen:
>
> > I know next to nothing about md and dmraid. Is there a howto doc somewhere that
> > I could read?
>
> Linux Software Raid:
For a fresh install of Fedora you can do a custom layout and configure how
you want to use software raid. It isn't hard to figure out with a little
playing around. You can even use raid 1 for /boot since the raid information
as at the end of the partition and each element of a raid 1 array looks
like a normal file system to grub.
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