Re: What's all the hype over Ubuntu?

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On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 09:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Da Rock wrote:
> 
> >> If the answers to the problems are found on ubuntu web pages doesn't that 
> >> mean the problems also exist in ubuntu?  If ubuntu handled the problem 
> >> directly then there would be no point in asking how to do it...  :-)
> >>
> >> Do the results/resolution to the problem translate to other distros or are 
> >> they specific to ubuntu?
> > 
> > Actually 90% of the time they do correlate. If Ubuntu does nothing else,
> > it does help newbies work out linux- even on other distros. If the user
> > gets stuck trying to work out how to sort it on their own distro they
> > can can get (although usually curt, hence why they would ask Ubuntu) a
> > response from the distro's team of players.
> 
> With all of the above being the case then I venture to say that the appeal 
> of ubuntu is not based on its technical merits.  I do know that if I were 
> going to start playing tennis again (or even when I was young enough to 
> start tennis for the first time) I would feel intimidated joining a group 
> that included Rodger Sampras.  I get the feeling that has much to do with 
> ubuntu's popularity.  Also, in general, given no clear reason people will 
> stick with what they know and once they know a distro they will stick with it.
> 

True, but better Ubuntu than insufferable M$ crap. Besides, they may
tire and want something better once they see what is possible.


> > 
> >> FWIW, I have ubuntu installed on a VM and do play with it from time to time. 
> >>   Probably need more time to learn its quarks.  But the one thing I noticed 
> >> is that the folks on their mailing lists, IMHO, tend to be greener than 
> >> average and the amount of bad advice or misinformation is greater than other 
> >> lists that have insufferable geeks.  :-)
> > 
> > This is true as well, but the Ubuntu lists appear to have real techs
> > roving the lists to fix issues.
> 
> I think you will find that true of all the lists of the major distros.
> 

True again, but the point was made that less "usable" information was
made by less experienced users on Ubuntu lists. Most of these are caught
by the techs and corrected. I will point out, though, that the same can
happen on any list- although it is less likely. I have been known to be
wrong at times even.

> > Love it or hate it, Ubuntu does appear to be here to stay, and it does
> > appear to be doing some good in the war against M$ as many (even
> > hardcore) M$ users will at least try it out for usability. My personal
> > opinion is to put complete newbies on it so they're not thrown in the
> > deep end- at least they have floaties! ;) Once they've gained their feet
> > then put them on something more reliable and stable. I find Ubuntu is
> > not as stable or functional as other linux distros, but easier to use.
> > It is of course far more stable than Windows at least- and
> > tougher/solid- while offering pretty much the same functionality they're
> > used to.
> 
> Linux is like religion.  There is room in this world for all.  Except, of 
> course, those that feel it is their mission to stamp out all others.  :-)
> 

Yes, I agree with that. Actually that goes for all open source, but my
general feeling is that M$ is more addiction than religion (And no, I
don't want a philosophical debate here- this is just my opinion. You may
consider it and take it onboard or not, I don't mind either way). People
just won't let it go ("its not really a problem") and they suffer
withdrawal if they don't have it- sound like addiction to you? Sounds
silly, yes, but very true when you consider it.

> > Ok I'm done. Hope I don't start something with this- I tend to agree
> > with the sentiment that this could get ugly here.
> 
> If not ugly, at least OT when it comes to talking about fedora issues.
> 

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