On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 09:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Da Rock wrote:
>
> >> If the answers to the problems are found on ubuntu web pages doesn't that
> >> mean the problems also exist in ubuntu? If ubuntu handled the problem
> >> directly then there would be no point in asking how to do it... :-)
> >>
> >> Do the results/resolution to the problem translate to other distros or are
> >> they specific to ubuntu?
> >
> > Actually 90% of the time they do correlate. If Ubuntu does nothing else,
> > it does help newbies work out linux- even on other distros. If the user
> > gets stuck trying to work out how to sort it on their own distro they
> > can can get (although usually curt, hence why they would ask Ubuntu) a
> > response from the distro's team of players.
>
> With all of the above being the case then I venture to say that the appeal
> of ubuntu is not based on its technical merits. I do know that if I were
> going to start playing tennis again (or even when I was young enough to
> start tennis for the first time) I would feel intimidated joining a group
> that included Rodger Sampras. I get the feeling that has much to do with
> ubuntu's popularity. Also, in general, given no clear reason people will
> stick with what they know and once they know a distro they will stick with it.
>
True, but better Ubuntu than insufferable M$ crap. Besides, they may
tire and want something better once they see what is possible.
> >
> >> FWIW, I have ubuntu installed on a VM and do play with it from time to time.
> >> Probably need more time to learn its quarks. But the one thing I noticed
> >> is that the folks on their mailing lists, IMHO, tend to be greener than
> >> average and the amount of bad advice or misinformation is greater than other
> >> lists that have insufferable geeks. :-)
> >
> > This is true as well, but the Ubuntu lists appear to have real techs
> > roving the lists to fix issues.
>
> I think you will find that true of all the lists of the major distros.
>
True again, but the point was made that less "usable" information was
made by less experienced users on Ubuntu lists. Most of these are caught
by the techs and corrected. I will point out, though, that the same can
happen on any list- although it is less likely. I have been known to be
wrong at times even.
> > Love it or hate it, Ubuntu does appear to be here to stay, and it does
> > appear to be doing some good in the war against M$ as many (even
> > hardcore) M$ users will at least try it out for usability. My personal
> > opinion is to put complete newbies on it so they're not thrown in the
> > deep end- at least they have floaties! ;) Once they've gained their feet
> > then put them on something more reliable and stable. I find Ubuntu is
> > not as stable or functional as other linux distros, but easier to use.
> > It is of course far more stable than Windows at least- and
> > tougher/solid- while offering pretty much the same functionality they're
> > used to.
>
> Linux is like religion. There is room in this world for all. Except, of
> course, those that feel it is their mission to stamp out all others. :-)
>
Yes, I agree with that. Actually that goes for all open source, but my
general feeling is that M$ is more addiction than religion (And no, I
don't want a philosophical debate here- this is just my opinion. You may
consider it and take it onboard or not, I don't mind either way). People
just won't let it go ("its not really a problem") and they suffer
withdrawal if they don't have it- sound like addiction to you? Sounds
silly, yes, but very true when you consider it.
> > Ok I'm done. Hope I don't start something with this- I tend to agree
> > with the sentiment that this could get ugly here.
>
> If not ugly, at least OT when it comes to talking about fedora issues.
>
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