One of the Fedora 7 systems for which I provide support had a weird thing happen today and I was wondering what you think. Could yum do this? The yum log shows that some packages were removed. The user says he doesn't know a thing about yum and did not manually remove any packages. I suppose it is possible he started yumex. He is a registered "sudoer". If the user did not do this, then it has to be a yum problem. The yum log is pasted in below. Note the last 4 lines, which removed things that this system really needed. How to blame yum? It appears to me that a kernel update via yum started a chain reaction. It wanted to find an openafs-kernel module, but I did not build one yet (oversight!). In the past, yum would quit at that stage and nothing would update. However, this time was different. The yum log shows that not only did it go ahead and install the new kernel, but it also removed everything that required the openafs-kernel module. In this case, that caused it to uninstall a meta package I install, called kups-meta. That meta package requires a bunch of rpms that I want our systems to have, and it also adds some login scripts that are installed in /usr/local/bin. kups-meta got removed by yum, and then the user could not log in anymore. About 1 month ago, I had noticed a change in yum concerning kernels and modules. The new yum will install kernels, even if updates for module packages are not available. On other systems, I've seen kernels update before the livna nvidia packages are available, and then X either won't start or it runs on xv. But this was the first time where I've seen spontaneous package removal by yum. What do you think? Could yum do this? Mar 11 05:23:36 Updated: qt.i386 1:3.3.8b-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:23:58 Updated: wine-core.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:01 Updated: arts.i386 8:1.5.9-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:03 Updated: dbus.i386 1.0.2-7.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:04 Updated: openldap.i386 2.3.34-7.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:05 Updated: cups-libs.i386 1:1.2.12-9.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:06 Updated: libdvdread.i386 0.9.7-3.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:07 Updated: krb5-libs.i386 1.6.1-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:08 Updated: libdvdnav.i386 4.1.1-3.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:09 Updated: akode.i386 2.0.2-4.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:10 Updated: pcre.i386 7.3-3.fc7 Mar 11 05:24:14 Updated: xine-lib.i386 1.1.10.1-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:25:04 Updated: tetex-fonts.i386 3.0-40.5.fc7 Mar 11 05:25:07 Updated: tetex-dvips.i386 3.0-40.5.fc7 Mar 11 05:25:07 Updated: pkgconfig.i386 1:0.21-6.fc7 Mar 11 05:25:10 Updated: poppler.i386 0.5.4-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:25:38 Updated: gimp-libs.i386 2:2.4.4-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:25:40 Installed: twolame-libs.i386 0.3.12-1.lvn7 Mar 11 05:25:41 Updated: libupnp.i386 1.6.5-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:25:43 Updated: graphviz.i386 2.12-10.fc7 Mar 11 05:26:17 Updated: gimp.i386 2:2.4.4-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:26:18 Updated: dbus-x11.i386 1.0.2-7.fc7 Mar 11 05:26:21 Updated: tomcat5-servlet-2.4-api.i386 5.5.26-1jpp.2.fc7 Mar 11 05:26:37 Updated: dia.i386 1:0.96.1-6.fc7 Mar 11 05:26:44 Updated: xine.i386 0.99.5-1.lvn7 Mar 11 05:26:45 Updated: akode-pulseaudio.i386 2.0.2-4.fc7 Mar 11 05:26:48 Updated: mplayer.i386 1.0-0.84.rc2.lvn7 Mar 11 05:26:50 Updated: system-config-printer-libs.i386 0.7.74.10-3.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:17 Updated: wine-ldap.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:19 Updated: wine-cms.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:19 Updated: wine-capi.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:20 Updated: wine-esd.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:21 Updated: wine-twain.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:21 Updated: wine-jack.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:22 Updated: wine-nas.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:23 Updated: unison.i386 2.27.57-2.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:24 Installed: libopendaap.i386 0.4.0-4.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:32 Installed: vlc-core.i386 0.8.6e-1.lvn7 Mar 11 05:27:48 Updated: vlc.i386 0.8.6e-1.lvn7 Mar 11 05:27:50 Updated: gnuplot.i386 4.0.0-19.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:52 Installed: php-common.i386 5.2.4-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:53 Installed: php-cli.i386 5.2.4-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:54 Updated: libnetfilter_conntrack.i386 0.0.82-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:55 Updated: mikmod.i386 3.2.2-6.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:56 Updated: pinentry.i386 0.7.4-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:27:56 Updated: pinentry-qt.i386 0.7.4-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:01 Updated: mplayer-gui.i386 1.0-0.84.rc2.lvn7 Mar 11 05:28:05 Updated: tomcat5-jsp-2.0-api.i386 5.5.26-1jpp.2.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:11 Updated: tetex-xdvi.i386 3.0-40.5.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:16 Updated: httpd.i386 2.2.8-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:18 Updated: krb5-workstation.i386 1.6.1-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:20 Updated: krb5-devel.i386 1.6.1-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:28 Updated: cups.i386 1:1.2.12-9.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:41 Updated: tetex-afm.i386 3.0-40.5.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:42 Updated: cpuspeed.i386 1:1.2.1-5.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:43 Updated: apcupsd.i386 3.14.2-2.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:44 Updated: xterm.i386 232-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:56 Updated: firefox.i386 2.0.0.12-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:57 Updated: python-exif.noarch 1.0.7-4.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:57 Updated: gnome-python2-extras.i386 2.14.3-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:28:58 Updated: kde-filesystem.noarch 4-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:29:00 Updated: graphviz-devel.i386 2.12-10.fc7 Mar 11 05:29:27 Updated: libsilc.i386 1.0.2-5.fc7 Mar 11 05:29:41 Updated: thunderbird.i386 2.0.0.12-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:29:44 Updated: smolt.noarch 1.1-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:29:44 Updated: smolt-firstboot.noarch 1.1-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:30:11 Updated: firefox-devel.i386 2.0.0.12-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:30:12 Updated: gnuplot-emacs.i386 4.0.0-19.fc7 Mar 11 05:30:13 Updated: system-config-printer.i386 0.7.74.10-3.fc7 Mar 11 05:30:49 Updated: gimp-help.noarch 2.4.0-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:30:53 Updated: dbus-devel.i386 1.0.2-7.fc7 Mar 11 05:31:26 Updated: openldap-devel.i386 2.3.34-7.fc7 Mar 11 05:31:30 Updated: tzdata.noarch 2007k-2.fc7 Mar 11 05:31:30 Installed: kernel.i686 2.6.23.15-80.fc7 Mar 11 05:32:21 Updated: devhelp.i386 0.13-13.fc7 Mar 11 05:32:22 Updated: gnome-python2-libegg.i386 2.14.3-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:32:23 Updated: gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.i386 2.14.3-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:32:41 Updated: yelp.i386 2.18.1-9.fc7 Mar 11 05:33:05 Updated: perl-libs.i386 4:5.8.8-28.fc7 Mar 11 05:33:37 Updated: perl.i386 4:5.8.8-28.fc7 Mar 11 05:34:33 Updated: kdelibs.i386 6:3.5.9-4.fc7 Mar 11 05:35:54 Updated: kdebase.i386 6:3.5.9-3.fc7 Mar 11 05:36:19 Updated: kdemultimedia.i386 6:3.5.9-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:37:33 Updated: kdepim.i386 6:3.5.9-6.fc7 Mar 11 05:38:25 Updated: kdeutils.i386 6:3.5.9-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:38:57 Updated: tetex.i386 3.0-40.5.fc7 Mar 11 05:39:47 Updated: kdeutils-extras.i386 6:3.5.9-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:40:09 Updated: kdemultimedia-extras.i386 6:3.5.9-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:41:23 Updated: kdegames.i386 6:3.5.9-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:41:32 Updated: rkward.i386 0.4.9-2.fc7 Mar 11 05:41:33 Updated: wine-tools.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:42:07 Updated: ghostscript.i386 8.15.4-4.fc7 Mar 11 05:42:13 Updated: xscreensaver-base.i386 1:5.05-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:42:44 Updated: kdeaddons.i386 3.5.9-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:42:45 Updated: perl-Test-Harness.i386 2.56-28.fc7 Mar 11 05:42:46 Updated: wine.i386 0.9.56-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:43:32 Updated: tetex-latex.i386 3.0-40.5.fc7 Mar 11 05:43:35 Updated: logwatch.noarch 7.3.4-11.fc7 Mar 11 05:44:22 Updated: tetex-doc.i386 3.0-40.5.fc7 Mar 11 05:44:24 Updated: perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker.i386 6.30-28.fc7 Mar 11 05:44:28 Updated: spamassassin.i386 3.2.4-1.fc7 Mar 11 05:44:29 Updated: perl-CPAN.i386 1.76_02-28.fc7 Mar 11 05:45:59 Updated: evolution.i386 2.10.3-8.fc7 Mar 11 05:46:01 Updated: perl-ExtUtils-Embed.i386 1.26-28.fc7 Mar 11 05:46:03 Updated: perl-devel.i386 4:5.8.8-28.fc7 Mar 11 05:46:04 Updated: perl-Test-Simple.i386 0.62-28.fc7 Mar 11 05:54:58 Erased: openafs-kernel Mar 11 05:56:06 Erased: twolame Mar 11 05:56:31 Erased: openafs-client Mar 11 05:56:51 Erased: kups-meta -- Paul E. 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