Re: wpa encryption of wireless network how to?

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Bill Davidsen:
> You read different security books than I do, mine say you should make 
> every single step as hard as possible, even if there's a workaround the 
> intruder may not know it.

You're still missing the point completely:

IT DOES NOT, IN *ANY* WAY, MAKE IT HARDER FOR A HACKER TO HACK INTO YOUR
WIRELESS LAN WHEN YOU STOP "BROADCASTING" THE SSID.  *THEY* DO *NOT*
NEED YOU TO BROADCAST IT TO BE ABLE TO HACK IT.  IT GIVES YOU ZERO
BENEFIT AND EXTRA PROBLEMS.

Do you hear me now?  How hard is it to understood that message?  Hiding
it does NOT give you ANY security benefits.  Not one, not even a little
bit, not even a teensy tiny little bit.  You're deluding yourself, start
making your tinfoil beanie, now, if you think that sort of rubbish
helps.  

All you do by hiding the SSID is fuck up *normal* networking.  Yep,
that's right, *normal* networking.  You make it harder for you to use
your own network.  You even make it harder for your conscientious
neighbours to not bother your network.

Throw away the crap security book that you're reading, and find out how
its done properly.

When I go looking for a wireless network, I'm given a list of what's
available around me.  SSIDs can tell me which network to use or avoid.
Networks without SSIDs are still findable, they're even listed, they're
just not listed with a name.  I can still make use of them.  

If I (or anyone else) wanted to hack one, I might just pick on any and
all.  But, perhaps, I might deliberately go for the hidden fruit, and
think that the one that's really worth hacking into is the one belonging
to the clueless owner thinking that they've hidden it.

And ignoring hacks, automatic software, ones that connect to different
networks depending on changes in various circumstances, depend on the
SSID.  They use it to work out which to use and avoid, too.  Without an
SSID they've got nothing to identify it as a network to NOT use.  So
you'll attract even more attention from roaming users, as their software
continually tries to work out what to do with the unidentified network.

We went through this only a week or two ago.  Stupid networking advice
needs squashing.  Advising to not broadcast the SSID is one of them.  It
just wastes everyone's time:  Those setting up networks, and those
trying to use networks.

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