Re: CD and DVD ISO images

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John Summerfield wrote:
| David Boles wrote:
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|> John Summerfield wrote:
|> | David Boles wrote:
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|> |> John Summerfield wrote:
|> |> | Timothy Murphy wrote:
|> |> |> Ed Landaveri wrote:
|> |> |>
|> |> |>> If your computer has no DVD drive and you need to do
|> |> |>> an installation, do a FTP or NFS install. It'll be
|> |> |>> faster & cleaner.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> An alternative is to use the KDE Live CD,
|> |> |> install that, and use "yum groupinstall"
|> |> |> to install anything more one wants.
|> |> |>
|> |> |
|> |> |
|> |> | Neither helps me give a copy to my mate.
|> |> | Neither helps install sans network; I've just tried Ubuntu jeos and,
|> |> | despite being on a CD, it wants to download more stuff from the
|> |> | Internet. Yuck and <plonk>.
|> |> |
|> |> | The CD-sized images in a DVD solves problems that other techniques
|> |> do not.
|> |> |
|> |> | Really, the question is, "Why not?"
|> |>
|> |> I am not with Fedora and can not answer your "Why not?". But I would
|> |> guess
|> |> it is drive space, plus mirror complaints, and no time.  ;-)
|> |
|> | If you'd read the whole thread, you'd know disk space isn't an issue.
|> | There are no separate CD images.
|>
|>
|> Gee I was referring to the mirrors that are doing this for free. Not your
|
| As am I.
|
|> drive space. Ta' know downloading, storing, keeping duplicate packages,
|> stuff like that. All for free I said again.
|
| Maybe you should read the thread.
|
|
|>
|>
|> |>
|> |> The only place that I know of for Fedora CD's is here.
|> |>
|> |> Fedora Unity
|> |> http://spins.fedoraunity.org/
|> |>
|> |> This site uses jigdo and (I have not done this but I would bet it
|> would
|> |> work) jigdo would read *your* DVD, download the updated packages, and
|> |> make
|> |> the CD's from the updates and the unchanged packages from your DVD.
|> These
|> |> CDs, should this work, would be up-to-date as of Dec 18, 2007.
|> |>
|> |> I have done a DVD to DVD update and jigdo works quite well.
|> |
|> | I've been using (and recommending) Jigdo for years. I don't recall
|> | seeing official Fedora jigdoes around.
|>
|>
|> There are no official Fedora CD sets for Fedora 8, that I know of,
|> available. I would trust the ones from the site I recommended. Did you
|> actually read the pages?
|
| I know about jigdo, I've been using it and recommending it for years. If
| there are no official CD images, it's not going to help reconstruct them.
|>
|> The jigdo uses *your* already official downloaded Fedora DVD packages and
|> downloads *official* updated packages from *official* Fedora mirrors to
|> replace the old ones. And then makes new iso(s). These are not *trust me*
|> isos by some third party.
|
| My proposal would have official CD sets and official DVD sets in (about)
| the same disk space as required for just DVD sets. Same at Fedora'a
| sites, same as at the mirrors.
|
| _I_ don't care so much about _MY_ disk space, I'll just go get another,
| bigger, drive. or delete something.
|
| My proposal would have no fiddling with jigdo. Fiddling with jigdo just
| adds to the complications.


Gee. Sorry. I was just trying to help you and your friend. And I did offer
a reasonable solution. A way to make a CD set from an existing, already
downloaded, official, Fedora 8 DVD and official Fedora 8 updated packages
downloaded from official Fedora mirrors into a CD set of Fedora. Even if
you did *not* have a local DVD source this would make the CD isos without
that. And Jigdo, bluntly, is so simple to use that anyone that *thinks*
that they can use Linux should be able to do it.

But what you want is a DVD with CD isos for everyone instead of an
installable DVD iso that I, and many, many others, could use with out the
magic, smoke, and mirrors. No thanks.

And I think that it makes more sense the way it is now than with the hair
brained CD isos in a DVD iso solution that you propose.

BTW - While I was preparing dinner I started this 'process' and I am
currently working on the fifth, there are five total in the set, CD iso.
If you had not been such a hard a$$ you could had CDs to hand to your
friend by tomorrow at the latest.

Have a good day.
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~  David

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