On 17Jan2008 21:58, Joe Tseng <joe_tseng@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'd like to have some GUI apps start when I log on but only if I'm using > Xwindows. Is it possible I could have them called conditionally from > bash_profile? Sure: if [ -n "$DISPLAY" ] then start some X apps... fi But be sure you're understanding the login processes involved; normally you don't need to do this, and it's probably a mistake. Generally: - a text mode login starts a login shell, which runs your .profile (or, if you're using bash and have a .bash_profile, then that - bash happily falls back to .profile, so I don't waste effort on a .bash_profile) - starting X from a text mode console, _after_ you've logged in, using startx or xinit will run ~/.xinitrc; when it finished the X server is terminated; your .profile has already been run before this happens so you don't need it, and anything running your .xinitrc _should_ be under X, so no checking needs doing - logging in in a GUI takes a different path: if you have one, your ~/.xsession file is run; your .profile has _not_ been run, so probably it should be sourced by ~/.xsession as the first action. (This implies that your .profile should never do anything interactive.) Then the rest of the .xsession runs; when it finishes the X session is over. Notice that so far, you have no cause to start X apps from the .profile; you put them in .xsession or .xinitrc, and no checking is needed. Now, case 3 above doesn't mention the common case - users without a .xsession. In this case the system default session is run. That starts some kind of desktop environment. But, because many users easily shoot themselves in the foot by putting syntax errors or interaction in their .profile, it DOES NOT source the user's .profile. This is bad practice, because it means that all the apps started from the desktop lack your environment settings. Noatably, terminals won't, and for _that_ reason most of the default desktops start LOGIN shells in new terminals. Gah! You're already logged in! Why ways all that effort again. Well, because the default desktop has shirked its duty and not run your login stuff yet. And _that_ is why you're thinking you need to modify your .profile. But your desktop has betrayed you and confused you. Myself, I have: - .profile, to set up my environment - .xinitrc, to run an X session, presuming my environment is ok - .xsession, that sources /etc/profile, .profile and .xinitrc This arranges things in the right order. When I open a new terminal, it is a plain interactive shell and NOT a login shell. Sieze control, as I have. Since the lifespan of your desktop is the lifespan of the .xinitirc file the last command in that is generally to run a window manager (or a full on desktop, such as gnome-session). Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ It's better, when you're racing with someone you don't know so well, to stick to the inside line - it's easier to avoid the bits. - Barry Sheene, bike GP commentator -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list