Re: Java Solution

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On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 12:45 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
> > On Thursday 03 January 2008, Karl Larsen wrote:
> >   
> >>     Dennis your another person who says I know nothing about java. Your
> >> full of self love Dennis. I know more from one day of study than you
> >> will ever know.
> >>     
> >
> > Karl, you do realize that you just called a member of the Fedora Engineering 
> > Steering Committee stupid, right?  See 
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee
> >
> > He's the build and release engineer for the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) 
> > project.
> >
> > He's a member of the Fedora Project Board for crying out loud! ( 
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board  )
> >
> > He actually maintains some of the packages that you (and I) use.
> >
> > Even with your PhD in EE, when it comes to Fedora I know beyond a shadow of a 
> > doubt that Dennis, one of the many capable Fedora leaders, knows a great deal 
> > more about this subject than you.
> >
> > Up to this point, I've been leaning towards giving you the benefit of the 
> > doubt, but this takes the cake.  Not again.
> >
> > By the way, the jedit installation FAQ explicitly says: "To run the installer, 
> > do whatever you normally do to run a Java jar archive. If this is your first 
> > time, follow these steps:
> >
> >    1.      Open a terminal or command interpreter window.
> >    2.      Change the current directory to the directory in which you have 
> > stored the jEdit installer file.
> >    3.      Run this command: [full path to java application launcher] -jar 
> > jeditXXXinstall.jar"
> > (FAQ found at http://www.jedit.org/FAQ/installation.html )
> >
> > NOTE CAREFULLY STEP 3: you have to use the FULL PATH TO THE  BINARY.  So, 
> > instead of the command line you might think:
> > /usr/bin/java -jar jedit4.3pre12install.jar (which will not work)
> >
> > with IcedTea, for instance, you run
> > /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.7.0-icedtea/bin/java -jar jedit4.3pre12install.jar  
> >
> > And, guess what: it installs and runs just fine.  I just installed it here, 
> > perfectly.  It didn't work by not giving the full path to the java binary 
> > (why, I don't know, but it is something the jedit developers are aware of, 
> > since they specifically say to give the full path to the java binary).  But I 
> > do know that I have a copy of jedit installed right now without a Sun java 
> > being installed.  Would you like to see the screenshots?
> >
> > Incidentally, thanks for the pointer to jedit; looks like something I might 
> > use.
> >   
>     Something happened in my immediate family yesterday and let me say 
> it is not like me to pick on people like I did. But I was not in sound 
> mind yesterday. Today I say please forgive me Dennis what I said was 
> stupid and not correct. The only thing accurate is that what I learned 
> about java I feel strong about. This again is that with all the java 
> provided in a Work Station load of F8, which I since learned is not very 
> much capability, I had no successful install of jedit. It is nice that 
> others have had success. I can't explain that.

Ah, there's the nub. *Let them explain it*. Sometimes surrender comes
hard, but it is useful at times to just say give it to me between the
eyes. Everyone will come to your aid. Ric
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