Re: how to jigdo download a fedora 8 re-spin in one easy step?

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David Boles wrote:
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Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, Ric Moore wrote:

On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 11:52 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
all i'm suggesting is that it took an inordinately long time to
figure out what should have been a two-minute exercise.  i'm
guessing that, in most cases, readers aren't interested in a
long-winded overview of things -- they just want to know what
commands to run to get something done, which is all i wanted in
the first place.

in short, what people might want is a fedora "cookbook" with
tight, concise recipes that just plain work, out of the box.  if
they choose to read up later on the underlying operations, then
that's their choice.
A wonderful example of that is http://www.stanton-finley.net/ which
is clear, concise and the content works every time and, for the most
part, still does. Too bad he went to the Ubuntu scheme of things
after FC5. Ric
  i will (sort of) agree with you.  yes, finley's website had/has
piles of cool advice on how to do things.  my only beef with it is
that it is simply too verbose.  here's an example -- how to install
yumex:

http://www.stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_5_installation_notes.html#Yumex

  sure, that explanation is correct but, man, it's wordy.  what's
wrong with just saying:  "as root, run

  # yum -y install yumex"

 seriously, how many times do you need to be told to open a terminal
and type "su"?  yes, i realize that's being annoyingly picky, but why
take 15 lines to say what can be said just as accurately in two?


It's all part of the dumbing down that Linux is going through.

The Infinite monkey theorem.  ;-)
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  David
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I disagree. If you drive the documentation train Fedora will go down in flames. What you use as an example of poor instruction is the best I have seen in a long time. He tells you what it is. He tells you how to get it. He tells you where it is on your computer. Then he goes to the next subject on the same page which is Java.

You power users are a small group. You just want the basics man! There are a lot more people who are new users who will like the way Finley did it. He went to Umbuto because you guys drove him there. But if you have your way there will be no more new users.

Karl


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