On Dec 29, 2007 2:48 PM, David Boles <dgboles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Kam Leo wrote: > > On Dec 29, 2007 6:20 AM, David Boles <dgboles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Karl Larsen wrote: > >>> Craig White wrote: > >>> It is interesting the hoops technical people jump through for > >>> Political reasons. Java exists on a web page somewhere and it is > >>> operating system independent. It is free to all users. > >>> > >>> But the users need to know how to get it and mount it. If Fedora is > >>> not going to use the real java in their distribution it is another > >>> reason other versions of Linux are slowly being used by the public (I > >>> have not seen any yet in my Wal-Mart). > >>> > >>> In competition with Windows you do things that are not good from the > >>> free software point of view. In my opinion we should change the > >>> definition of free to include software available free but without source > >>> code. In this group comes the driver for Nvidia hardware. I think what's > >>> happening is a Political fix where someone is using the Nvidia software > >>> which is NOT with a source code, and when a new kernel is ready they run > >>> the Nvidia software and make the kernel driver(s), which are then put in > >>> a rpm file and sent to users as a Update. It looks good but is it really > >>> good? > >> > >> I just have to ask you Karl. What OS or Linux distribution natively > >> includes Sun Java? What OS or Linux distribution natively includes the > >> Nvidia drivers that you install? > >> > > > > Expand your limited horizon. Try openSUSE 10.3. > > > That was a fair question from me becasue i don't really know the answer. > > Here is some questions for you. > > Does "openSUSE 10.3" do what you want and need from Linux that Fedora > does not? Or will not? Really? Neither openSuSE nor Fedora are end-all products. Both distributions make decent servers. However, neither is ready to replace Microsoft's Windows OS and the applications for that OS. Some day perhaps; just not today. > So why are you still running Fedora? I would have switched in a heartbeat. Fedora is fast paced and has fewer restraints on me with configuring a system. I learn many things because of that pace. Why do I have to exclusively run one variant of Linux? I have multiple machines which are multi-booted. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list