On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 09:20 -0500, David Boles wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Karl Larsen wrote: > > Craig White wrote: > > It is interesting the hoops technical people jump through for > > Political reasons. Java exists on a web page somewhere and it is > > operating system independent. It is free to all users. > > > > But the users need to know how to get it and mount it. If Fedora is > > not going to use the real java in their distribution it is another > > reason other versions of Linux are slowly being used by the public (I > > have not seen any yet in my Wal-Mart). > > > > In competition with Windows you do things that are not good from the > > free software point of view. In my opinion we should change the > > definition of free to include software available free but without source > > code. In this group comes the driver for Nvidia hardware. I think what's > > happening is a Political fix where someone is using the Nvidia software > > which is NOT with a source code, and when a new kernel is ready they run > > the Nvidia software and make the kernel driver(s), which are then put in > > a rpm file and sent to users as a Update. It looks good but is it really > > good? > > > I just have to ask you Karl. What OS or Linux distribution natively > includes Sun Java? What OS or Linux distribution natively includes the > Nvidia drivers that you install? ---- WRT Sun's Java, you know that Karl won't know that answer but I do. The answer is here... https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ which of course still begs the issue of their license which is restrictive. nVidia is of course, a horse of another color since only binaries exist and there is no source to study at all. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list