Re: Need a fetchmail guru (JoAnne D.?) who's been using it to pop his/her gmail

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Tim:
>> I'd ditch the notion of using an ISP's crappy mail system when you
>> can easily use a much better server, elsewhere.

Gene Heskett:
> Yeah, I'm seeing hour plus outages here.  And you can't tell whats
> going on cuz they have the ping response and traceroute responders
> disabled, security ya know. vz, being in bed with M$, has to do all
> that.  Dumb...

To be honest, pinging is a less than adequate test.  It only tests one
aspect of networking.  It certainly doesn't test anything to do with a
mail server (the server software, that part that actually relates to
"mail" serving).

I wouldn't be all that surprised if they'd turned off too much (like the
hapless users who'll foolishly block *all* ICMP traffic).

> Ask an email related question on the tech support line (now there is
> an oxymoron for you, "tech support") and mention kmail, then you have
> to tell them its linux & they say "whazzat, we don't support anything
> but winderz and macs."  About that time I get pi$$y and point out that
> a std protocol is a std protocol.  And that they aren't following it.

For larger ISPs, I recommend lying.  Pretend you're using Outlook.  The
usual webmonkeys can't access logs (they just read a prepared script at
you, or make a fault log entry for someone else to fix) or wouldn't know
how to interpret them.

I prefer the smaller ISPs, ones that own themselves.  You've more chance
of actually talking to a tech that maintains their gear.  And even more
chance that they use Linux, either because they're an enthusiast or they
use Linux servers.

I find it amusing that it seems the smaller ISPs *need* less technical
support staff.  I can only imagine it's because they actually keep their
gear working.  ;-)

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