david walcroft wrote: >> Pardon my ignorance but what are my options. >> >> rpm {-V|--verify} [select-options] [verify-options] A little further down in the rpm manpage, the select-options and verify-options are given: select-options [PACKAGE_NAME] [-a,--all] [-f,--file FILE] [-g,--group GROUP] {-p,--package PACKAGE_FILE] [--fileid MD5] [--hdrid SHA1] [--pkgid MD5] [--tid TID] [--querybynumber HDRNUM] [--triggeredby PACKAGE_NAME] [--whatprovides CAPABILITY] [--whatrequires CAPABILITY] ... verify-options [--nodeps] [--nofiles] [--noscripts] [--nodigest] [--nosignature] [--nolinkto] [--nomd5] [--nosize] [--nouser] [--nogroup] [--nomtime] [--nomode] [--nordev] Further down that that, the PACKAGE SELECTION OPTIONS and VERIFY OPTIONS sections got into more detail about each of these options. For the purposes of finding out whether something was wrong with your hal or hal-libs packages, you don't need any particular options except for the command I suggested (rpm -V hal hal-libs). That command will verify that the packages hal and hal-lib are installed and that the contents of those packages matches what was installed by rpm originally. > OK I found some more reading and found "rpm -vv" > There was nothing about 'hal' rpm -vv will just show the help if run by itself. Were you adding some other options in addition to -vv? As I see it, to determine what you're having a problem starting and stopping the hal daemon, you want to first verify that the hal packages are installed and that they match what was installed by rpm (using the rpm -V command above). If that command produces no output, then all should be well with your install. The next step would be to see if there is any information in the system logs about the failures. Step 3: ?? Step 4: Profit! :) -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Whenever 'A' attempts by law to impose his moral standards upon 'B', 'A' is most likely a scoundrel. -- H. L. Mencken
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