On Monday 26 November 2007, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Nov 26, 2007 12:19 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Then it still misses the need for a way to get current desktop programs > > without wild and crazy changes in the kernel and device drivers. > Make up your mind. Do you care about uptime reliability for critical > services or do you care about desktop applications? Are you seriously > attempting to suggest that new versions of thunderbird or openoffice > are critical in any sense of the word? He wants a stable kernel but a more up to date userland so that the kernel driver ABI doesn't change but userland does. I wouldn't mind that myself so that VMware and other binary modules wouldn't break so often, but still having cutting edge userland. I don't think uptime reliability is part of the equation. I think it has more to do with drivers and the module ABI. Stable means different things to different people. The userland of Fedora on the kernel of RHEL, I think, would meet Les's needs the best. For KDE users you can already get this through running CentOS or RHEL and then adding the KDE-Redhat repo, which replaces large sections of the system with updated packages (but doesn't touch the kernel). Of course, there is more to stability than the kernel (glibc anyone?). I know binary modules are Considered Harmful by many; sometimes 'you gotta do what you gotta do.' -- Lamar Owen Chief Information Officer Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
