Generally in this list the postings relate to queries concerning problems and failings with Fedora, and how-to suggestions and workarounds for specific issues. I have now installed F8 on six different machines and all are running very well indeed and are better by far than F7 was. We tend to forget that being right at the bleeding edge means we may have problems but overall the new F8 is a big step forward over F7 in relation to several areas. 1) Wireless support is fantastic compared to F7 with the new in-kernel drivers for iwl3945 (and 4965), as well as the old ipw2200, and removing the need to compile and install proprietary drivers. Work is still being undertaken on ath5k and rt2x00 but the latter is now working well for me with a usb adapter that uses rt73usb. 2) Suspend seems to be much better than previously - I have one laptop that did not suspend and restart cleanly with F7, and it does with F8. I am sure that others could name more parts of the system that work well, or have been greatly improved. When I installed F8 I had an issue with the install hanging, but there is a known easy workaround. I also had a mess with pulse-audio but again a simple "yum remove" option was brought to this list and gives me a nice sound system without pulse-audio. It is a shame that these issues did hit a lot of people but once the workarounds have been done and the system installed and updated we do have a really nice distribution, and with so much new stuff in the recent kernels, as well as the supported applications, it is great to know that it is slick, secure and works well. Sure you do have to know how to fix the few remaining problems but it is well worth requesting info through the experts on this list and then running the best linux distro available. After all Linus himself I believe uses Fedora! Perhaps other could add their praise to the Fedora developers as much of the time we tend to see brickbats rather than accolades! My two-pennyworth... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list