Re: RPM

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On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 14:07 +0100, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:54 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Karl Larsen wrote:
> > 
> > > Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, William Hooper wrote:
> > 
> > > > > It's still available now:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/books/max-rpm/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > given that that book appears to have not been updated since 2000,
> > > > i'd suggest that it doesn't have much value these days, given all
> > > > the rpm-related developments that have happened since then.
> > > >
> > > > rday
> > > >
> > >    I take rday you know of a newer book in pdf form that we can all
> > > make a book of that was written this month
> > 
> > i'll tell you what, karl.  things will go much more smoothly around
> > here if we have a clearly-defined separation of responsibilities.
> > now, in *my* case, having been around fedora for years, having used
> > rpm for quite some time, and having actually *owned* the
> > aforementioned book in treeware form, it will be *my* job to recommend
> > that it might not be worth the time or money to get into it given that
> > it's seven years old and almost certainly out of date, given
> > everything that's happened with rpm since then.
> > 
> > similarly, it will be *your* responsibility to do stupid things to
> > your system, complain when it breaks, then offer to write worthless,
> > error-filled "tutorials" that will almost certainly inspire readers
> > who take you seriously to cause untold damage to their computers.
> > 
> > how about it, karl?  are you good with that?  does that work for you?
> > 
> > rday
> 
> That, right there, is the best damn reading I've done in more'n'a
> fortnight! Brilliant!
> 
> It's a bit unfortunate that it was Karl and not somebody else, 'cuz
> there'll be a bunch swelling up and running to defences and whatnot and
> the whole beauty of it will be lost. But, we can't script life, can
> we...
> 
> Regardless of whose feelings may or may not be hurt, or whose shiny
> armour will now be donned and brought to the frey, (or for that matter
> the contents of the dozens of posts I still have yet to read), that was
> a fantastic and wholly accurate vignette.
> 
> Just lovely.
> 
> And for what it's worth, the book is indeed rather aged, but the package
> building side of rpm hasn't really changed so much as to make the book a
> bad idea. I still thumb through mine occasionally, in fact, and was
> really stoked to be able to download an e-version yesterday. 
> Actually, my thanks go to Karl for making me aware of its existence.
> 
> Andy
Much as both of you have suggested to Karl, Please go generate a blog
for your bashing.  It adds nothing to the list, makes you look childish
and doesn't help anyone.  Great Blog material.

regards,
LesH

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