On 10/28/07, Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > David Boles wrote: > > on 10/28/2007 4:11 PM, Karl Larsen wrote: > > > >> David Boles wrote: > >> > >>> on 10/28/2007 3:04 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Alan Cox wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> But note that there is nothing remotely illegal about the nvidia driver, > >>>>>> nor would there be any problem with the fedora project distributing it > >>>>>> themselves if they had any reason to care about the user experience. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Actually the legal state of the Nvidia driver is a matter of debate. Even > >>>>> if it was legal it would not meet the Fedora policy, nor be in the > >>>>> interests of the project. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> When the users' interests aren't the same as the project's interests, > >>>> you have to wonder why there are any users - or how long there will be any. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> The Linux users should get of their collective lazy a$$es and setup their > >>> systems to suit themselves if they want to use non FOSS packages. > >>> > >>> Since the current subject is Nvidia, a Windows install, for example, comes > >>> with a 'it works' Nvidia video driver. Just like Linux does. *Not* the > >>> fancy one from Nvidia that does all of the fancy stuff. The 'Stupid > >>> Windows User' must go to the Nvidia site, find the proper driver for his > >>> video card and install it to get the fancy video stuff. > >>> > >>> So what you are saying or implying here? That 'Stupid Windows Users' know > >>> more about their systems and how to set them up than 'Brilliant Linux > >>> Users' do? ;-) > >>> > >>> > >> The Windows user has a screen with a pointer on it. He can use that > >> screen forever and be happy. If he is at home and wants to run Flight > >> Simulator he needs to get the better driver and the instruction on > >> flight sim include how to get it. > >> > >> Fedora users discover a broken screen sometimes without a pointer > >> and that is how it works. Stupid since there are alternatives. > >> > > > > > > I didn't say that you should *not* use the Nvidia drivers Karl. Only that > > you should be prepared to do the work needed to do that. And that you > > should understand just *why* Fedora can *not* do this. And just why the > > people on the 'third party sites' might be a little behind your needs. > > Thinks like they might have real jobs. They are doing it because they want > > to do it. And for no money. Kinda' hard to be upset with someone who is > > giving you their time and efforts for free. That's all. > > > > > Well after all this "why we can't do a dam thing" let's consider how > to help a new user of Fedora x who stumbles onto this list and is asking > for help with the usual nvidia problems. We need someone to get those > people headed in the right direction. I will be willing to do that. As I > looked today nvidia is a big company making a lot of money. My computer > is full of there stuff. Since Fedora x will just work terrible with > nvidia I think we must be ready to help. since you want to help to really resolve the problem the nouveau project is waiting for your patches: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ > > > > -- > > Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI > Linux User > #450462 http://counter.li.org. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
