> Next, it is a FACT that if I turn SELinux OFF, all problems go away. No, it is a FACT that if you turn SELinux OFF, you do not see any problems. They may still exist. But you've removed the one thing that was alerting you to the problem. Nobody is saying with conviction that you are 100% wrong in some of your conclusions. We are saying that you cannot assert with 100% confidence based on what you've told us that SELinux is the root cause of your problems. That it is a problem at all. It may just be a symptom manifesting itself as a result of an underlying problem. One that remains there after you've removed possibly the only thing that alerts you to the underlying problem. >If > I have it turned on there is no problem at all except when I get a > update to SELinux. This triggers the problem. I do not want to live in > fear of another SELinux update :-) > > Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Great. Nobody is trying to convince you that you /must/ use it. Most everybody is trying to convince you that you are casting blame on it when it may simply be a symptom of a greater root problem caused by something totally unrelated to SELinux. If what you were experiencing was reproduceable and being experienced by /many/ others then it would have some merit. Disable SELinux and happy trails. Life goes on. If you heed some of the warnings re-echoed in this thread about that hacking incident then you'll wipe your system and re-install. A day or two of your time is much less work and much less $$ than weeks or months fighing with the credit bureaus trying to clear up your name because an ID thief who hacked your system still has access to it and is using your personal information for credit applications. Or much less work and much less $$ than having to defend yourself when the police come knocking at your door because your system was used to hack into DND, or used to host child pornography. If you don't want to heed the warnings, rather choosing to trust your abilities to properly detect and remove all hacker inserted malware/vulnerabilities on your computer, your perogative as Britney Spears says. Disable SELinux so your problems go away. Your SELinux problems go away hence you no longer post SELinux "problems" to the list. Win-win. Happy trails. Time ot move on to other issues... Jacques B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
