Kam Leo wrote: > > Hi, Mikkel. > > You're late to the discussion. Tim believes it is not about > installation methods but it is not. Please join in. In case you missed > it here's a quick recap: > No, I just didn't feel like commenting. > 1. Nelson was concerned whether FC6 supported his Intel processor. He > said he was told that F7 provided support. > > 2. Karl replied, recommending the F7 DVD. > Not accurate - he said that you could only do a DVD install. Then again, I guess CD and DVD installs are the only methods he knows about, and he doesn't know about the live CDs. > 3. Aaron replied, dissing Karl, and said F7 can be installed from a Live CD. > Karl deserves it - between incomplete answers, Telling people they are wrong when he doesn't understand what is being talked about, and his blog-type posts, he is not an asset to the mailing list. He tries to come across as an expert when he knows almost nothing about the subject. I think the worst part is that he does not know how the gaps in his knowledge make his statements false, and his advice almost useless. (I can give examples, if you want.) Add to that his blaming everything on the piece of software he is currently trying to understand, and it is almost funny. His intentions may be good, but his following his advice can be dangerous. > 4. I responded to Aaron's post and told him to stop dissing Karl. I > stated that Karl who may not have properly conveyed the thought is > factually correct. My interpretation of what Karl posted is "For F7 go > with the DVD because unlike previous releases a CD-ROM set does not > exist." I further stated that if you want the DVD equivalent you have > to roll your own set of CD-ROMs. > If the way he conveyed the though leads people to the wrong conclusion, then the answer is wrong. If nobody corrects him, then he will continue to give this type of answer. On the other hand, correcting Karl usually leads to personal attacks on the person doing the correcting. I have noticed some people are giving him short answers without explaining the answer. Maybe trying to show Karl what is wrong with his answers. It does not seem to be working. > 5. Tim took issue with the statement regarding rolling your own set. > Tim agrees that Fedora does not offer such a set but that a set is > available from a third party. (I'm still waiting for a link, Tim.) I > really don't know where Tim got the impression that either Karl or I > said that F7 could only be installed using a DVD. Neither of us stated > such thing. > > This thread began as a media recommendation for F7. It was never about > installation method. For some reason Tim believes that it is. What the > heck, I like diversions! > What is the difference between a media recommendation and install methods? Unless you are talking about what type of DVD-R to use, how to burn it, or the advantages/disadvantages of burning your own verses buying a copy, you are talking about install methods. If your description of what Karl said was accurate, then he was recommending an install method. But the way he worded it, it sounded like a DVD install was the only install method. So is the problem that Karl is ignorant of other install methods, or that he is not articulate enough to make his point clearly enough that he is not misunderstood? It is a problem in ether case. In any case, I usually ignore Karl's threads, and his problems. It is not worth putting up with his personal attacks, and his refusal to entertain the idea that his assumptions may be wrong. Any advice that does not go along with he current idea of what is wrong is bad advice... If Karl want to act like he knows it all, he can fix his own problems. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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