Re: F7, SELinux, and security

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On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 16:26 +0000, Beartooth wrote:
> 	Picked out of the getting rid of SELinux thread on this list, 
> originated by me, and now made a thread of its own, also by me -- 
> because, while still as interesting as ever, especially to me, it has 
> broadened enough that people seeking help specifically with SELinux would 
> be apt to overlook it. (Or at least I would.) 
> 
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:44:37 +0100, Andy Green wrote:
> [....]
>  I strongly believe
> > that you can't inherently trust machines on any internal network any
> > more than those outside.  There was an interesting thread about this on
> > Full Disclosure the other week with some guy going on about how he would
> > heroically jump in the way of any foreign "cyber attack" from boxes in
> > $COUNTRY and lend his powers to repelling it, etc.  A guy replied
> > shortly pointing out that the attack comes from the machine next to you,
> > not some easily identified foreign box.  And that is exactly what we see
> > with worms and viruses.
> [....]
> 	Since the context (I think) involves LANs and suchlike things, 
> you must mean "physically next," not just electronically via the Net, 
> right? 
> 
> 	Iow, if I run some app that discovers malware on linux boxes, and 
> find some on one of the machines on my desk, it will more likely have 
> come from one of my others that off the Net or the Web, right?
> 
> 	But surely that machine here, or some machine here, got it in the 
> first place electronically?
> 
> 	I seem to be getting more confused than usual here ....

But at least you're hanging in there. You go Beartooth. Light dispels
the Darkness. Getting every ones perceptions is never a bad thing. Ric

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