On 9/24/07, Res <res@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Andy Green wrote: > > > > *shrug* best to say "yes that's what they are *in my country*" then, > > because there must be a lot of places where is a civil issue. > > Or more to the point nobody here should assume everything is uniform, this > is an international user list. > > >> So.. you are saying we should offer these crims 300 gigs a month for 70 > > > > These people downloading media files, which you assume are violating any > > laws, and choose to label "criminals"... what about all the YouTube, > > iTunes, the various legit movie and TV episode download sites that all > > I spend a lot of time on youtube, I also watch certain shows from the US > via CBS (I think it is) since the local networks stopped importing and > showing some of those shows, I stream the bbc many hours a day, I do > critical DB backups daily to my home desktop (just an extra part of > off-site backing up) and it'd be lucky to hit 50 gigs a month, and thats > a big effort, there is no way you can stream legal material that uses > 300G a month, and you and I both know it, to tink otherwise is to be blind > and nieve, and smells of " i'm not doing anything wrong no on no not me > ever" heard it a trillion times before, and SEEN it! > > When I was dealing with speed complaints, you only have to look at the > port and you can see what they are doing, encrypted data? no problems, > lock and unlock their port, they restart their p2p, and we can see what > they are doing, i have had so many deny it to me whilst im on the phone > talking to them, and i'm seeing they are downloading the latest yet to be > released in this country movies, but then again, have you ever known a > criminal to admit what they are doing is wrong without being caught, have > you ever known a spamemr to think what he/she is doing is spamming, its > all denials, adn we see right through you :) > > > > I'm on an unlimited 20Mbps cable connection... along with what must be > > hundreds of thousands of others here in the UK -- it's not cheap but > > it's not a "business plan". Your idea of what is possible and what is > > good customer service for ISPs seems pretty messed up. In the future > > The cost of data to Australia is expensive, courtesy of the american > tier 1 extortionate interconnects, we can pay anywhere up to 30 times > what U.S ISPs do per data (they blame it on the loooooooonnnnggggg trans > pacific haul), so there will never be such a thing as true unlimited on > a survivable business model in this country :) > Certainly not in any forseeable future. > > -- > > Cheers > Res LOL Nothing that money can't fix. Google is purported to be building a pacific cable of their own. If your local telco doesn't get their paws on it you just might get a break. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
