Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
RAM has got cheap this Fall and that was why I bought 2 GB for this
computer. I would buy the unit made in China if it is much cheaper.
They must have about the same thing inside that the US units have. And I
think some US models are made in China :-)
Similar is not the same. What is in a Ram memory chip is not what is in
a flash drive for two reasons:
1. RAM chips are dynaminc memory. So when the power is off they loose
their contents.
2. No one would buy RAM memory that could only be written to 500,000
times.
RAM chips may be dynamic memory. They may also be static memory. I
have this nice 256k battery backed up static S-100 memory board in
storage. The difference is that you have to refresh dynamic RAM even
if it is powered up. You do not have to refresh static RAM as long
as you keep it powered up. But static RAM usually costs more.
Mikkel
Our problem is we keep calling this technology some old name. This
memory devise is called "Flash Memeory". It can be used for many
applications. Here is one:
Search Results for: DT100/8GB
Description: 8GB USB 2.0 Hi-Speed DataTraveler 100
Mfgr's System P/N's: N/A
Form Factor: USB Flash Memory
Pieces/Unit: 1
Warranty: 5 Yrs
How to purchase online
<http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=DT100/8GB&id=1>Compatibility
<http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=DT100/8GB&id=2>Warranty
<http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=DT100/8GB&id=3>Support
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U.S. residents can purchase Kingston memory online from the following
list of authorized resellers. Visitors from outside the U.S., *click
here* <http://www.kingston.com/wheretobuy/Regions.asp>.
8GB DataTraveler 100 USB 2.0 Flash Drive
<http://kingston2.pgpartner.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=43405222>
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$117.00
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see site Shop
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$117.00
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see site Shop
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Computers4SURE
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$97.95
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Buy.com
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As you see it is possible to get an 8 GB Flash Memory USB stick for
$92.00 from Buy.com which has a 5 year warrenty and should work on F7
just fine :-)
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