and i would tend to think/believe and interpret that what karl has posted has to do with fedora.. it's his experiences, both small, and large that he's posting to the list with... everything that he's posted (as far as i can tell) has to do with his machine, which has fedora, that he's been trying to gte up/running.. so, i ask again.. what's your issue? i would also say that there are more than enough people who do want to play list police. they're the same ones who want to go into the correct way to post top/side/bottom (for those san fran guys)!! if an actual fedora list admin wanted to slam karl, than hey.. it's his list, go for it.. but i'm reasonably sure that whoever is the admin of this list has way more critical things to spend their time on. also, to this point, if you object to karl... start your own email list for fedora that you moderate, and you can ensure that the environment would be up to your standards... peace -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of DJ Delorie Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:37 PM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: New Computer "bruce" <bedouglas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > if you really want a locked down environment I never said that. I said your idea was wrong because it puts the onus on the wrong people. You would punish the innocent to avoid inconveniencing the guilty. > then you should create a moderated list of your own... you'd have > complete, and utter mastery over what could be submited/posted... It's a sad day when we must resort to moderation because people can't be bothered to be respectful of the purpose of the list. > but i don't believe the list needs you, or anyone else as it's > police.. This list *has* police. They're called list administrators, and they can blacklist whoever they feel is appropriate, since this is their list and we're here at their sufferance. I'm not an admin, and I don't think this is an appropriate case for such drastic measures. > every so often people tend to pop up, and want to police the list in > their image... Not "my image". The list is the "Fedora" list. It's purpose is in its name. It's not the "Betty Crocker" list, or the "triathlon" list, it's the "Fedora" list. It's not the "building my computer" list. None of this is my *opinion*, it's what the list *is*. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic : "What is off-topic? Off-topic messages do not follow the topic for the mailing list they were posted to. . . . You should select a more appropriate mailing list for your message and post it there instead. fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx This mailing list is for general discussions and support questions regarding Fedora. If your post is in any way related to Fedora, it is probably not off-topic here." -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list