on 7/23/2007 1:57 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 23 July 2007, Les wrote: >> On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 22:26 -0700, David Boles wrote: >>> on 7/22/2007 10:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>> David Boles wrote: >>>>> on 7/22/2007 9:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>>>> David Boles wrote: >>>>>>> Really? I have said that I am not a techie only a user of a tool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you name me one personnel computer that would run then, or will >>>>>>> today, a true Unix OS? >>>>>> Sorry, I have to ask. What is "true Unix OS"? Does Solaris qualify? >>>>> I am not sure Ed. What I had in my mind was the OS that runs on those >>>>> really large cabinets in those really cold rooms. I have worked on >>>>> those. The rooms and the A\C not the computers. >>>> Well, if you're not sure of what your definition is of "a true Unix OS" >>>> then a challenge or question as to if a PC will run them kind of loses >>>> its meaning. >>>> >>>> I venture to say that most folks would classify Solaris as a "true Unix >>>> OS" and yes, they mostly ran on Sparc CPU server systems in rooms with >>>> false floors and big A/C's. And yes, in the early days, the workstation >>>> varieties used Sparc CPU's and not your typical Intel or AMD processor. >>>> >>>> But, today Solaris runs just fine on Intel. So, I would submit that as >>>> an answer to your question. >>> Like I said - I was thinking of main frame stuff on big cabinets in really >>> cold rooms. >>> >>> I have never tried Solaris or Sparc. Are they considered what I described >>> as 'a true Unix'? I was not even aware that they would run in x86 type >>> equipment. >>> >>> I am *not* trying to be a smart *** here. I would like to know. >> Yes, Solaris is Unix, and runs on x86 and lots of other architectures. >> As to the big machines in really cold rooms, most modern desktops have >> more power than the early Unix systems did. In 1972 a 10Mb disk was >> huge. I worked on a 40Mb disk which had air pumps, pnumatic pistons to >> drive the heads and ran at 3600 RPM with platters that were about 20" in >> diameter if I remember right. >> >> Sparc is a kind of processor, it means Sparse instruction set computer. >> Generally with 32 or so registers, these cpus were capable of very fast >> operations, and only have 20-50 instructions. Kind of a hardware >> implementation of a P-machine for PASCAL. > > Humm, I wonder how the ParalaXx(sp?) 'propeller' would run one of these os's? > I'd imagine it has a quite sparse instruction set, but it has 32, 32 bit > processors in it, running at about 50mhz each, using microwatts each. > Properly harnessed & pipelined, I'd think it could be pretty speedy & its in > a 48 or 64 pin dip package! I'd think the package would make it i/o bound, > but I'm just guessing. > >> Regards, >> Les H You can only speak to me in English. Geek does not normally work well. ;-) -- David
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