on 7/23/2007 1:41 AM, Les wrote: > On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 22:26 -0700, David Boles wrote: >> on 7/22/2007 10:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> David Boles wrote: >>>> on 7/22/2007 9:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>>> David Boles wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Really? I have said that I am not a techie only a user of a tool. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you name me one personnel computer that would run then, or will today, >>>>>> a true Unix OS? >>>>> Sorry, I have to ask. What is "true Unix OS"? Does Solaris qualify? >>>> I am not sure Ed. What I had in my mind was the OS that runs on those >>>> really large cabinets in those really cold rooms. I have worked on those. >>>> The rooms and the A\C not the computers. >>> Well, if you're not sure of what your definition is of "a true Unix OS" then >>> a challenge or question as to if a PC will run them kind of loses its meaning. >>> >>> I venture to say that most folks would classify Solaris as a "true Unix OS" >>> and yes, they mostly ran on Sparc CPU server systems in rooms with false >>> floors and big A/C's. And yes, in the early days, the workstation varieties >>> used Sparc CPU's and not your typical Intel or AMD processor. >>> >>> But, today Solaris runs just fine on Intel. So, I would submit that as an >>> answer to your question. >> Like I said - I was thinking of main frame stuff on big cabinets in really >> cold rooms. >> >> I have never tried Solaris or Sparc. Are they considered what I described >> as 'a true Unix'? I was not even aware that they would run in x86 type >> equipment. >> >> I am *not* trying to be a smart *** here. I would like to know. > > Yes, Solaris is Unix, and runs on x86 and lots of other architectures. > As to the big machines in really cold rooms, most modern desktops have > more power than the early Unix systems did. In 1972 a 10Mb disk was > huge. I worked on a 40Mb disk which had air pumps, pnumatic pistons to > drive the heads and ran at 3600 RPM with platters that were about 20" in > diameter if I remember right. > > Sparc is a kind of processor, it means Sparse instruction set computer. > Generally with 32 or so registers, these cpus were capable of very fast > operations, and only have 20-50 instructions. Kind of a hardware > implementation of a P-machine for PASCAL. > > Regards, > Les H Thanks Les, for the information. This sounds like an adventure yet to happen. I will try this first chance I get. -- David
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