Re: Smart packages

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on 7/22/2007 12:52 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 10:56:55 -0600,
>>>   Karl Larsen <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>>> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>    Thinking about Ferdora 7 and 8 it appears when 8 is made available 
>>>>>> we will need to download another DVD full of software. I want to talk 
>>>>>> about a better way. Why must a person building a server get 4.7 GB of 
>>>>>> software when he wants just 750 MBytes of it?
>>>>> There is no need to do. There is a network boot option with boot.iso 
>>>>> image and there are Live images, both GNOME and KDE spins for x86 is 
>>>>> around the size you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rahul
>>>>>
>>>> 	As usual Rahul you didn't read what I wrote. You just throw out 
>>>> 	things that have zero to do with concept.
>>> Rahul seemed to provide reasonable suggestions for the problems you are
>>> asking about. Doing a network install solves the issue of downloading
>>> stuff you don't need. Fedora has Live CD versions that you were asking about.
>>>
>> I think the problem is that Rahual didn't go into enough detail for
>> Karl. He didn't understand that you can just download the boot.iso
>> image, burn it to a CD, and use that to install the packages you
>> want from a network. (Or over the Internet.) If you do not walk Karl
>> through it step by step, then he doesn't understand what you are
>> saying, and makes comments like the one above. Now, if he would just
>> learn to ask when he doesn't understand part of the message, instead
>> of taking the position that the part he doesn't understand doesn't
>> matter...
>>
>> We don't even want to get into doing a PXE boot and installing that way.
>>
>> Mikkel
>>
> 	Not true. I understand what he was suggesting. Now lets run through 
> this thought a bit. Lets say your wife just got interested in Linux. 
> Would you tell her to d/l the boot disk and then without help select the 
> things she wants in her desktop?  That is stupid and will not work.
> 
> 	What she and all the other windows users want is to d/l one CD and load 
> a working system. This is all you can expect from a normal windows user.
> 
> 	This is why you need to think like I did and make a real effort to do 
> this. If not then Fedora will remain a Geek's toy.

The two Live-CDs that were mentioned, one for KDE and one for GNOME, do
just that.

I can not say anything about the KDE Live-CD because as I have not seen
it. The GNOME Live-CD would have everything on it for a desktop type
install that I would want *except* Thunderbird. OpenOffice, and squid.
*If* I remember correctly. And those can be installed from sources on The
Internet. And, of course, I am excluding all of the 'third party site'
packages too.

In spite of what many think a Windows install does *not* come with much
software. Just the basic stuff. The rest, the fancy stuff if you will, has
to be added later.


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  David

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