Re: Change in ls -l time stamp display?

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On Tue, July 17, 2007 08:10, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 17/07/07, Pete Geenhuizen <pgeenhuizen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tue, July 17, 2007 07:36, Karl Larsen wrote:
>
>> > If it loads it is good I thought. I looked at man ls and it seems
>> > to be the same one from FC6 so far as I can see. What you show is the
>> > same thing from FC6 and F7 the difference being the date. On FC6 you
>> get
>> > a USA standard date. On F7 you get the European date and that looks
>> > different. Both are accurate I think and I like the looks of the F7
>> line
>> > better :-)
>> I'm not disputing it's accuracy.
>> I checked the man pages.
>> I didn't ask for, didn't select, nor do I live in Europe, no offense,
>> but I
>> have no interest in European time display.
>>
>> None of you suggestions or comments address my question, and if I
>> preferred
>> the f7 output I wouldn't have brought it up, I obviously prefer the old
>> listing which has been that way in every Unix version that I've worked
>> on
>> for the past 25 years.
>
> It's been suggested that you alias ls or look at LC_TIME.
> I'd just like to point out 2007-07-17 is ISO, not European
> format; in full the European format would be 17th July 2007.

Correct you are, sorry. 
Yeah I could alias it and format it, but why should I have to?  The question is why the change, and there has to be an easier way that mucking with an alias to format the output.

> <http://www.saqqara.demon.co.uk/datefmt.htm>
>
> We should really just throw away all ambiguity and
> stick with seconds since epoch. (Bad idea.)
Mebbe, but then we'd need calculators and programs to give us the human time.  Sigh
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