Ashley Pritchard wrote:
"I have looked at Dell's initiative with
Ubuntu Linux but i guess a user would have to contact Ubuntu forums for
any kind of support"
Yes Dell is supplying OS support for Dell systems sold w/ Ubuntu Linux
under their warranty service.
Will Linux ever be on the desktop mainstream? NO it will never be on the
desktop because the open source community is not unified enough to
accomplish this. There is not standardized distribution that will work
...ie w/the ability to play DVDs, MP3s etc out of the box (even
individual users will argue just over the pettiest of commands such as
how to su to root). The conflicts between DMC, Patton laws & GPL & no
one willing to compromise on either side of the issue continues to make
linux a pain in the rear to install & configure. Even though
incorporating multimedia support to work in the distribution may be in
conflict with the philosophy of "free" (as in free speech) software not
incorporating multimedia support limits my freedom to listen to music &
watch movies on the system with the OS of my choice. You can install F7
in an afternoon & then spend the next 4-5 months configuring & trying to
figure out how to get things to work. Just to have a usable system for
multimedia & simple browsing is complicated for the lack of flash & java
support (I still have not gotten java to work on my system & I installed
F7 almost 2mo ago). I had to edit all of the GDM themes to have Welsh
language support & that took the better part of 2 days to sift through
all of the xml files. I am still configuring my system but almost have
to where I like but by then they will have a new version out & the cycle
will start again.
This is where i believe hardware vendors can add significant value as
users are going to *pay* for a desktop/laptop. Hardware vendors can
easily include support for multimedia out of the box.
No linux will never win over Windows for the desktop on PCs. If you want
a system with an open source OS get a MAC which is basically Free BSD.
Mac is a overly hyped and priced software/hardware. Again, the same
theory applies here. Apple takes the work from open source and builds
into its hardware and charges a fortune to users with lots of flashy things.
Srikanth
On 7/13/07, * Srikanth Konjarla* <srikanth.konjarla@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:srikanth.konjarla@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
> Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
>> Interesting subject as always. To me, yes Linux beats XP/Vista etc.
>> Last time i have run windowZe for business was NT4 (i go to
customers)
>> since then i have started running Linux on laptop (started with
RH7.0,
>> no dual boot either).
>>
>> But, for many out there it may not beat XP because there is no
vendor
>> stands behind "Linux" to support. Also, Linux has become very
general
>> term and i guess these days we gotta be specific about a Linux
>> distribution (F7, Ubuntu, SuSE etc). If there is a vendor who is
ready
>> to pre install Linux (any distro) and extend it to full
supportability
>> while providing all the drivers (video, wireless specifically)
then it
>> can beat any OS (in my opinion OS X also).
>>
>> The question, who is gonna do that.
>
> Maybe these are US-only links, but they are to PCs with RedHat and
> Ubuntu factory installed.
>
>
http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_n?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&redirect=1
<http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_n?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&redirect=1>
>
>
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
<http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs>
Sun,IBM,HP also shipping RH,SUSE based Linux servers for quite a while.
But, on the desktop side of the Linux, there is no vendor who can
"extend" a supportable Linux. I have looked at Dell's initiative with
Ubuntu Linux but i guess a user would have to contact Ubuntu forums for
any kind of support. Also, Dell is not known to contributing any code
that might augment the functionality of Linux or works better on their
hardware with complete support of hardware. But, i guess it is a good
start from Dell.
Most of the hardware vendors have a mailing list that is specific to
Linux but when it comes to actual support they contribute nothing
(specially Toshiba). This need to change for a big push into
desktop/laptop market.
Srikanth
>
>
>
> But, installing your own is trivial if the hardware is recognized
by the
> installer.
>
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