Re: Can Linux beat XP in homes yet or NOT?

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Ashley Pritchard wrote:
"I have looked at Dell's initiative with
Ubuntu Linux but i guess a user would have to contact Ubuntu forums for
any kind of support"
Yes Dell is supplying OS support for Dell systems sold w/ Ubuntu Linux under their warranty service.

Will Linux ever be on the desktop mainstream? NO it will never be on the desktop because the open source community is not unified enough to accomplish this. There is not standardized distribution that will work ...ie w/the ability to play DVDs, MP3s etc out of the box (even individual users will argue just over the pettiest of commands such as how to su to root). The conflicts between DMC, Patton laws & GPL & no one willing to compromise on either side of the issue continues to make linux a pain in the rear to install & configure. Even though incorporating multimedia support to work in the distribution may be in conflict with the philosophy of "free" (as in free speech) software not incorporating multimedia support limits my freedom to listen to music & watch movies on the system with the OS of my choice. You can install F7 in an afternoon & then spend the next 4-5 months configuring & trying to figure out how to get things to work. Just to have a usable system for multimedia & simple browsing is complicated for the lack of flash & java support (I still have not gotten java to work on my system & I installed F7 almost 2mo ago). I had to edit all of the GDM themes to have Welsh language support & that took the better part of 2 days to sift through all of the xml files. I am still configuring my system but almost have to where I like but by then they will have a new version out & the cycle will start again.

This is where i believe hardware vendors can add significant value as users are going to *pay* for a desktop/laptop. Hardware vendors can easily include support for multimedia out of the box.

No linux will never win over Windows for the desktop on PCs. If you want a system with an open source OS get a MAC which is basically Free BSD.
Mac is a overly hyped and priced software/hardware. Again, the same theory applies here. Apple takes the work from open source and builds into its hardware and charges a fortune to users with lots of flashy things.

Srikanth

On 7/13/07, * Srikanth Konjarla* <srikanth.konjarla@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:srikanth.konjarla@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:



    Les Mikesell wrote:
     > Srikanth Konjarla wrote:
     >> Interesting subject as always. To me, yes Linux beats XP/Vista etc.
     >> Last time i have run windowZe for business was NT4 (i go to
    customers)
     >> since then i have started running Linux on laptop (started with
    RH7.0,
     >> no dual boot either).
     >>
     >> But, for many out there it may not beat XP because there is no
    vendor
     >> stands behind "Linux" to support. Also, Linux has become very
    general
     >> term and i guess these days we gotta be specific about a Linux
     >> distribution (F7, Ubuntu, SuSE etc). If there is a vendor who is
    ready
     >> to pre install Linux (any distro) and extend it to full
    supportability
     >> while providing all the drivers (video, wireless specifically)
    then it
     >> can beat any OS (in my opinion OS X also).
     >>
     >> The question, who is gonna do that.
     >
     > Maybe these are US-only links, but they are to PCs with RedHat and
     > Ubuntu factory installed.
     >
     >
    http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_n?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&redirect=1
    <http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/precn_n?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&redirect=1>
     >
     >
    http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
    <http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs>
    Sun,IBM,HP also shipping RH,SUSE based Linux servers for quite a while.
    But, on the desktop side of the Linux, there is no vendor who can
    "extend" a supportable Linux. I have looked at Dell's initiative with
    Ubuntu Linux but i guess a user would have to contact Ubuntu forums for
    any kind of support. Also, Dell is not known to contributing any code
    that might augment the functionality of Linux or works better on their
    hardware with complete support of hardware. But, i guess it is a good
    start from Dell.

    Most of the hardware vendors have a mailing list that is specific to
    Linux but when it comes to actual support they contribute nothing
    (specially Toshiba). This need to change for a big push into
    desktop/laptop market.

    Srikanth
     >
     >
     >
     > But, installing your own is trivial if the hardware is recognized
    by the
     > installer.
     >

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