> (Now that's a slick piece of marketing!) So I just assumed that there > were no consumer "de-macrovision" boxes available, since anybody who > built one would be (presumably) sued by MacroVision for patent > infringement. Unlikely. There have even been designs published in electronics magazines in the past, and some capture cards and video recorders are naturally immune to them. > Where might I find one of those boxes? In the USA basically you don't. In the rest of the world its much easier although with some of the evil US like laws propogating bits of europe you might have to find devices that "happen" not to care about macrovision rather than those that remove it specifically. The Zoran card I have freaks out, the BT848 based card I have really doesn't notice Macrovision Alan