This is what I got from: telnet mail.poughkeepsieschools.org 80 Trying 64.72.66.117... Connected to mail.poughkeepsieschools.org (64.72.66.117). Escape character is '^]'. get index.php <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"> <html><head> <title>400 Bad Request</title> </head><body> <h1>Bad Request</h1> <p>Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.<br /> </p> </body></html> Connection closed by foreign host. The server is accessed with https://... I'm not sure if I can use any of the above information. Evan <snip> did you ever tried to do a manual telnet to school web server's port 80 ? # telnet school.server.com 80 If your Linux terminal throws back a error immediately you will know what is the problem. Otherwise, this should stay for some time, then just type: get index.html and see if get any response from the server regards Yogesh