Re: VMWare repo

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On 05/02/07, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 05/02/07, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> > Does anyone know of a repo where one could aquire VMWare player and
>> > tools for FC6? All the instructions that I've found for installing
>> > VMWare products involve messing around with the kernel, something that
>> > I'd rather not do.
>>
>> Installing VMware products does not involve "messing around with the
>> kernel".  It does involve compiling kernel modules that VMware needs to
>> communicate with the "Virtual Machine" or as VMware would call it, the
>> guest
>> O/S.
>>
>> Even if there were a repo for it, the process of installing VMware
>> from the
>> repo would involve compiling the modules.  So, the end result would be
>> the same.
>>
>> FWIW, if you want to install VMware products, my advice is to simply
>> follow
>> their instructions.  It is probably just me, but I prefer to do the same
>> with the Nvidia drivers.  I am fond of running "non standard" things
>> when I
>> am more aware of what is going on.
>
> I don't remember how I installed VMWare player on my Kubuntu box, but
> I'm certain that I did not have to sess with the kernel. In fact, I
> think I simply installed it via apt-get. If it's important to
> somebody, then I can check.

Let me restate, *you* may have not messed with the kernel when running
apt-get...but certainly in the process of running apt-get the
"vmware-config" script must have been run.  In that process, unless the
modules "vmnet, vmmon" (and potentially others) supplied match the running
kernel they must be compiled by "vmware-config".  This process may be hidden
from your view by "apt-get" but it does happen.  I've been using VMware
products since the 2.X days when there was no such animal as "VMware player"
and I'm currently doing beta testing on Workstation 6.0 and nothing has
changed.  VMware requires modules that need to be compiled to match the
running kernel.  If the modules supplied by VMware don't match, they need to
be recompiled and if *you* don't do it...then it is being done for you
behind the scenes and being hidden from you.  But, in any case the kernel
itself is *not* being messed with.  It is simply that modules need to be
compiled to match the running kernel....  Yes, I'm repeating myself.


Ah, I see. I thought that was considered messing with the kernel. I'm
a bit better with spark plugs and pushrods than with kernels and
modules.

I installed the Player from the VMWare site, ran the vmware-config.pl
script and all is well so far as I can tell. I'm SSHing my vmware
files from my kubuntu box over to test it out, but that will take all
night (I can only get 400 kb/s over SSH for some reason, on two
machines with a router between them).

In the meantime, I attempted to install VMware-server and found that
it conflicts with the player:
[root@localhost ~]# rpm -Uv
/home/dotancohen/Desktop/VMware-server-1.0.1-29996.i386.rpm
[snip redundant error messages]
       file /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary/upAthlon-2.4.19-SuSE-SLES8/objects/vmmon.o
from install of VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from
package VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
       file /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary/upAthlon-2.4.20-SuSE-8.2/objects/vmmon.o
from install of VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from
package VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
       file /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary/upAthlon-2.4.21-138-SuSE-SLES8/objects/vmmon.o
from install of VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from
package VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
       file /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary/upAthlon-2.4.21-166-SuSE-9.0/objects/vmmon.o
from install of VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from
package VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
       file /usr/lib/vmware/modules/binary/upAthlon-2.4.21-SuSE-9.0/objects/vmmon.o
from install of VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from
package VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
       file /usr/lib/vmware/modules/source/vmmon.tar from install of
VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from package
VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
       file /usr/lib/vmware/modules/source/vmnet.tar from install of
VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from package
VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
       file /usr/lib/vmware/net-services.sh from install of
VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from package
VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
       file /usr/lib/vmware/share/pixmaps/console.png from install of
VMware-server-1.0.1-29996 conflicts with file from package
VMwarePlayer-1.0.3-34682
[root@localhost ~]#

Should I remove the Player to install the Server? The only reason I'm
installing Server is for the Tools. Thanks for your assistance and
advice. I very much appreciate it, and I'll work hard so that you
don't need to repeat yourself again.

Dotan Cohen

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