The breakage caused by the gtk2 update has caused me a hassle during the last week, and I can't figure out 1) why gtk2 is making changes that break other programs and 2) why gtk2- 2.10.8-1.fc6 is not removed from the Fedora update servers. As noted in this list and in Fedora-testing, gtk2 2.10.8 breaks drag and drop in Thunderbird email (and Seamonkey and Firefox, AFAIK), and I keep having to remove the new gtk2 on my systems and install the last working version, which was gtk2-2.10.4-10.fc6.i386.rpm The Thunderbird update released yesterday does not correct the drag and drop problem for individual email items (at least on my systems), although it does correct it for groups of selected emails. Aren't fundamental changes in the API for libraries like gtk2 supposed to be reserved for major releases, such as FC7? If using Fedora Updates makes me a "beta tester", I would appreciate some kind of a announcement from the FC team. This makes me think that Fedora should create a "security" category of updates so that we can just install the vital RPMs, and skip whatever testing is going on in gtk2 or other packages. -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 University of Kansas