On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:12:42 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 20:52, Beartooth wrote: >> >> lsmod from a root prompt gets me "bash: lsmod: command not found" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > That's typical of what you get when you try it as user. Have you tried it as > root? Actually, I keep two tabs on my terminal (with background color contrasting to the default!) permanently signed on to root, one at / and one at /home/btth for things I do in that directory. I didn't c&p from there only because the problem machine, not seeing even the router, gives me no way I've yet found to use c&p to another machine that does access the Net. (Its K3B doesn't recognize my CD drive as a burner, and I haven't actually used a floppy for so long I don't remember how.) But I did mean the phrase "from a root prompt" to imply that that machine shows me exactly what, as a matter of fact, I also get on the biggest newest one, which I'm using now : [root@localhost btth]# lspci bash: lspci: command not found [root@localhost btth]# lsmod bash: lsmod: command not found [root@localhost btth]# -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.