Re: Too many processes question.

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Les wrote:
Here is the output:
# top -b -n 1
top - 10:38:49 up 1 day, 19:16,  1 user,  load average: 0.19, 0.52, 0.79
Tasks: 113 total,   1 running, 112 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s): 11.3%us,  1.5%sy,  0.1%ni, 85.8%id,  1.2%wa,  0.1%hi,  0.0%si,
0.0%st
Mem:    254824k total,   248528k used,     6296k free,     3076k buffers
Swap:   524280k total,    87628k used,   436652k free,    68036k cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 17220 root 15 0 2156 912 704 R 5.6 0.4 0:00.07 top 1 root 15 0 2032 564 540 S 0.0 0.2 0:02.88 init 2 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 3 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 ksoftirqd/0 4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0 5 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.63 events/0 6 root 14 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 khelper 7 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 kthread 53 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.30 kblockd/0 54 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cqueue/0 55 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksuspend_usbd 58 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 khubd 60 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 kseriod 88 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kapmd 93 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.13 pdflush 94 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.21 pdflush 95 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:08.64 kswapd0 96 root 20 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 257 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kpsmoused 279 root 12 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/0 280 root 12 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ata_aux 287 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kmirrord 292 root 14 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksnapd 295 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:11.12 kjournald 328 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kauditd 362 root 17 -4 2916 372 336 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.39 udevd 598 root 10 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kgameportd 697 root 11 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ac97/0 1289 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kmpathd/0 1323 root 13 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kjournald 1813 root 15 0 9540 4716 324 S 0.0 1.9 0:00.11 restorecond 1824 root 18 0 1696 516 472 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.37 syslogd 1827 root 18 0 1644 380 328 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.07 klogd 1854 root 15 0 2124 312 264 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.97 mcstransd 1867 rpc 16 0 1780 396 392 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 portmap 1921 root 15 0 4924 260 236 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.05 rpc.idmapd 1941 dbus 18 0 13080 1248 984 S 0.0 0.5 0:36.77 dbus-daemon 1993 root 19 0 6260 752 636 S 0.0 0.3 0:08.64 automount 2038 root 18 0 15292 332 328 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 hpiod 2043 root 15 0 13032 856 580 S 0.0 0.3 0:02.32 python 2089 ntp 15 0 4840 4840 3856 S 0.0 1.9 0:00.87 ntpd 2115 root 15 0 8984 832 636 S 0.0 0.3 0:01.25 sendmail 2126 smmsp 15 0 7920 636 524 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.05 sendmail 2138 root 15 0 1868 280 260 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.37 gpm 2149 root 18 0 5392 612 544 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.51 crond 2182 xfs 18 0 4132 1188 500 S 0.0 0.5 0:01.16 xfs 2213 root 18 0 2584 344 300 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.02 atd 2229 root 18 0 47464 31m 3000 S 0.0 12.6 15:29.20 yum-updatesd 2257 haldaemo 15 0 6560 2216 1252 S 0.0 0.9 1:45.20 hald 2258 root 15 0 3104 892 804 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.09 hald-runner 2266 haldaemo 18 0 2348 576 572 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb 2270 haldaemo 15 0 2344 576 572 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 hald-addon-keyb 2278 haldaemo 15 0 2344 604 580 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.59 hald-addon-keyb 2288 root 18 0 1920 528 508 S 0.0 0.2 0:11.16 hald-addon-stor 2290 root 18 0 1924 528 508 S 0.0 0.2 0:05.41 hald-addon-stor 2326 root 15 0 1960 768 624 S 0.0 0.3 0:06.07 dhcdbd 2342 root 15 0 14544 1528 1332 S 0.0 0.6 0:06.01 NetworkManager 2358 root 15 0 3156 988 868 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.03 NetworkManagerD 2453 root 18 0 1952 432 284 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.21 smartd 2461 root 18 0 1624 368 364 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 mingetty 2462 root 18 0 1628 368 364 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 mingetty 2463 root 19 0 1628 368 364 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 mingetty 2464 root 20 0 1624 368 364 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 mingetty 2465 root 21 0 1628 368 364 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 mingetty 2466 root 23 0 1628 368 364 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 mingetty 2541 root 18 0 4488 988 984 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.01 prefdm 2544 root 15 0 15376 1956 1952 S 0.0 0.8 0:00.32 gdm-binary 2633 root 18 0 15764 1768 1712 S 0.0 0.7 0:00.39 gdm-binary 4079 root 15 0 9748 1204 1088 S 0.0 0.5 0:02.89 cupsd 9138 lesh 15 0 2520 1132 960 S 0.0 0.4 0:05.79 gam_server 11489 root 15 0 33772 13m 6200 S 0.0 5.5 18:23.24 Xorg 11712 lesh 15 0 22416 5296 4312 S 0.0 2.1 0:00.88 gnome-session 11768 lesh 18 0 4288 344 220 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.03 ssh-agent 11771 lesh 18 0 2736 484 404 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 dbus-launch 11772 lesh 15 0 13080 972 728 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.24 dbus-daemon 11779 lesh 16 0 7480 3760 1656 S 0.0 1.5 0:06.36 gconfd-2 11782 lesh 20 0 2532 536 456 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 gnome-keyring-d 11784 lesh 15 0 33364 5932 4620 S 0.0 2.3 0:10.97 gnome-settings- 11800 lesh 15 0 17664 8088 5932 S 0.0 3.2 0:44.01 metacity 11804 lesh 15 0 66300 4456 3660 S 0.0 1.7 0:28.23 gnome-power-man 11807 lesh 18 0 70660 9.8m 7324 S 0.0 4.0 0:10.75 gnome-panel 11809 lesh 20 0 105m 8924 7368 S 0.0 3.5 0:07.55 nautilus 11814 lesh 15 0 38528 2152 1620 S 0.0 0.8 0:00.99 bonobo-activati 11822 lesh 16 0 11164 2380 2036 S 0.0 0.9 0:00.14 gnome-vfs-daemo 11826 lesh 15 0 69672 9.8m 7344 S 0.0 3.9 0:14.49 wnck-applet 11830 lesh 15 0 97148 5552 5004 S 0.0 2.2 0:00.46 trashapplet 11839 lesh 15 0 16056 4428 3652 S 0.0 1.7 0:09.53 gnome-screensav 11847 lesh 15 0 22564 5112 4596 S 0.0 2.0 0:00.43 notification-ar 11849 lesh 15 0 69080 6404 5668 S 0.0 2.5 0:02.73 mixer_applet2 11851 lesh 19 0 27900 7004 5800 S 0.0 2.7 0:05.77 clock-applet 11863 lesh 15 0 2440 728 692 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.55 mapping-daemon 11871 lesh 16 0 44236 4996 4652 S 0.0 2.0 0:00.42 eggcups 11879 lesh 15 0 22116 3112 3104 S 0.0 1.2 0:00.10 gnome-volume-ma 11886 lesh 15 0 24580 8460 5444 S 0.0 3.3 0:01.43 puplet 11887 lesh 15 0 89664 20m 9572 S 0.0 8.3 2:23.51 beagled 11891 lesh 15 0 68256 8604 6736 S 0.0 3.4 2:15.95 nm-applet 11898 lesh 18 0 5900 1032 1028 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.04 escd 11960 lesh 15 0 14900 3464 3128 S 0.0 1.4 0:06.72 pam-panel-icon 12052 root 15 0 1804 616 516 S 0.0 0.2 0:03.32 pam_timestamp_c 12155 lesh 15 0 100m 5640 3776 S 0.0 2.2 0:01.80 evolution-data- 13644 lesh 22 0 70940 7724 6228 S 0.0 3.0 0:00.49 evolution-alarm 16910 lesh 30 15 38172 14m 7888 S 0.0 6.0 0:06.58 beagled-helper 16981 lesh 15 0 60916 8372 5792 S 0.0 3.3 0:01.19 notification-da 16984 root 15 0 2280 1088 788 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.01 dhclient 17057 lesh 15 0 188m 24m 16m S 0.0 9.8 0:27.39 evolution 17104 lesh 15 0 31132 26m 2564 S 0.0 10.5 0:08.36 spamd 17108 lesh 18 0 31264 25m 1996 S 0.0 10.3 0:00.47 spamd 17112 lesh 15 0 83784 12m 8472 S 0.0 5.1 0:21.06 gnome-terminal 17117 lesh 18 0 2440 664 564 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.01 gnome-pty-helpe 17118 lesh 16 0 4624 1432 1156 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.19 bash 17149 lesh 15 0 80044 19m 13m S 0.0 7.9 0:06.39 gedit 17151 root 18 0 4808 1208 956 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.05 su 17155 root 15 0 4624 1444 1168 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.15 bash
[root@localhost ~]#

Other that just entirely too many things running, this doesn't seem to
tell much about the problem.
Note that I run Gnome desktop, but there are a large number of items
beginning with "k", which I thought indicated
the KDE versions of software.

Regards,
Les H
Les,

Steve Siegfried provided some excellent advice, but I'd like to add a few more points. Your computer definitely looks to be memory bound. I totaled the %MEM column and came up with 150%. This means that the Linux kernel must swap memory pages out to disk, causing operations that would normally utilize the fastest part of the computer (RAM) to use the slowest part (hard disk).

The good news is that RAM is cheap and increasing your physical memory to 512 MB (or 1 GB if your motherboard can handle it) should yield a noticeable improvement. For now, you could shut down some of the more memory hungry (and non-vital) services. yum-updatesd, beagled, and spamd are accounting for 47.7% of your physical memory alone. Shutting them down and configuring your desktop to consume fewer resources (terminate unnecessary programs and applets, disable desktop effects, etc.) should give you a reasonable idea of how the machine will perform with more memory.

Finally, those processes that begin with "k" are special kernel processes. They should be there even if you are running from the command line. In other words, killing them would be a VERY BAD THING.

I hope this is helpful,

Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer

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